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Old January 23 2014, 01:30 AM   #166
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Re: Question to those most disappointed with the SW prequels

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I did too - for the most part. It was a CGI tour de force that was actually thrilling and delivered more or less what it was designed to: display Anakin's incredible piloting skills and show off the then-new and recent CGI imaging technology by creating a slew of cool and interesting aliens who were also in the race.

TPM has some major flaws but the Boonta Eve Podrace isn't one of them.
My only criticism with it is that it takes too long for Williams' music to kick in. I get the decision to allow Ben Burtt the opportunity to showcase is sound-design-fu, but the result is that when the music kicks it, it feels out of place and overly melodramatic.

On the other hand, the Flag Parade cue, just before the race, is one of my favorites in the Saga.

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Old January 23 2014, 01:48 AM   #167
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And he really believes it's crucial for the drama.
Or for the sake of continuity, since she's apparently dead as a doornail by the time of the OT.
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Old January 23 2014, 02:05 AM   #168
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Padme had just seen the fall of the Republic, she's been told that her husband has betrayed the Jedi and killed younglings and he just tried to kill her. And while many women do in fact love their new born children, many women also develop postpartum depression and in Padme's case it would seem to be justisfied.

You can also see the long distance connection between Padme and Anakin in the scene just before he leaves the temple to save Palpatine. She appears to looking at him in the temple as he's thinking about Palpatine's words about saving Padme's life.
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Old January 23 2014, 02:10 AM   #169
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Post partum depression? Like 2 minutes after the birth?
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Old January 23 2014, 02:19 AM   #170
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You can also see the long distance connection between Padme and Anakin in the scene just before he leaves the temple to save Palpatine. She appears to looking at him in the temple as he's thinking about Palpatine's words about saving Padme's life.
I really liked that scene. Very powerful. It does hint at a more psychic, or Force-based connection between Anakin and Padmé.

Plus Williams' music is haunting.

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Old January 23 2014, 02:22 AM   #171
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You can also see the long distance connection between Padme and Anakin in the scene just before he leaves the temple to save Palpatine. She appears to looking at him in the temple as he's thinking about Palpatine's words about saving Padme's life.
I really liked that scene. Very powerful. It does hint at a more psychic, or Force-based connection between Anakin and Padmé.

Plus Williams' music is haunting.

One of my favorites too.
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Old January 23 2014, 02:25 AM   #172
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It's a tad wonky unless you think she has a a psychic bond and brainwashing and Force reconstruction of her neural pathways over time all of which are shattered by the builder of these things trying to kill her. Killing the very structures of "love" he has built.
Good stuff.

Rorschach inkblots are so interesting, aren't they!

As to how it worked on the screen without all these interpretations, it didn't IMO. I think the birth scene is terrible, embarrassingly bad. It looks like some clunky 70's sci fi, awkward and disconnected from real people. I went from adoring Padme in TPM to hardly being able to watch her death because it was so cheesy. Even the camera angles are weirdly amateur looking, like a bunch of school kids who had no understanding of birth and death were doing the "okay, and now she dies and ROBOTS!" scene. I remember thinking, I should be crying now but this is fucking awful.
This.

The word regarding the birth scene that came to my mind was "sterile".
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Old January 23 2014, 02:32 AM   #173
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If we're going with a Force-related cause, could it be that giving birth to the "Chosen One"'s twins took something out of her Force-wise?
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Old January 23 2014, 02:35 AM   #174
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It's a tad wonky unless you think she has a a psychic bond and brainwashing and Force reconstruction of her neural pathways over time all of which are shattered by the builder of these things trying to kill her. Killing the very structures of "love" he has built.
Good stuff.

Rorschach inkblots are so interesting, aren't they!

As to how it worked on the screen without all these interpretations, it didn't IMO. I think the birth scene is terrible, embarrassingly bad. It looks like some clunky 70's sci fi, awkward and disconnected from real people. I went from adoring Padme in TPM to hardly being able to watch her death because it was so cheesy. Even the camera angles are weirdly amateur looking, like a bunch of school kids who had no understanding of birth and death were doing the "okay, and now she dies and ROBOTS!" scene. I remember thinking, I should be crying now but this is fucking awful.
This.

The word regarding the birth scene that came to my mind was "sterile".
It always reminds me of Logan's Run, not to slam an excellent movie but that is not the feel the scene needed.
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Old January 23 2014, 02:41 AM   #175
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I think it's safe to say that Lucas ripped off many movies, throughout the STAR WARS saga - including DUNE. And just like Paul Atrede's beloved Chani dying giving birth to twins, so too, must Padme die ... not for telling a good story, but because it was cherry picked out of a good story.
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Old January 23 2014, 02:46 AM   #176
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We already knew she died when the twins were babies in the OT. This is hardly stealing a story, death of a mother is not exactly a copyrighted theme.
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Old January 23 2014, 02:49 AM   #177
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One of the creepiest, eeriest moments in the entire Saga, bar none. I always get a chill when this scene plays, and even Anakin's tear rolling down his face as he begins to cry is effective.
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Old January 23 2014, 02:49 AM   #178
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Now teacake, listen here ...
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Old January 23 2014, 02:57 AM   #179
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It's very obvious to me that George Lucas, quite simply, does not understand women (he may even be gay).
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And 2takes, you realize George is a married, heterosexual guy, right?
Lots of gay men are married to women, for any one - or combination of - reasons. Lucas would, by no means, be the first - if that, in fact, is what's going on ...
Your evidence that Lucas might be secretly gay is that he doesn't understand women?
I've been married to a woman for twenty-plus years and am straight and still do not understand women.
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Old January 23 2014, 02:59 AM   #180
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Now teacake, listen here ...
To what?

Spock's mommy died in XI, maybe that was stolen from somewhere too.. I KNOW IT WAS BAMBI
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