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Old January 19 2014, 12:42 AM   #76
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Re: Writing questions

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"Star Trek species character traits"
I'm not sure this is quite what you had in mind, but there's the "alien species" list here :

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.ph...TrekNovelVerse
Cool thanks! This is going to be very useful.
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Old January 19 2014, 10:37 PM   #77
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Do you think I should start a thread under fan-fiction and make a place to post anything I find?
I don't know if you already have or not because I'm not down in that forum very much any more but you could try asking in the fan fiction forum itself. If anyone's going to have found internet resources for writing Star Trek it's those guys.
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Old January 19 2014, 10:44 PM   #78
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The main difference between writing Trek and writing general fiction is that, at this late date, you don't need to explain or describe the basics. For example, you don't really have to describe the bridge or transporter room in detail or mention that Vulcans have pointed ears--unless you're telling a scene from the POV of a character who is unfamiliar with such things. "Her eyes widened at the sight of the stranger's pointed ears," etc.
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Old January 22 2014, 02:21 AM   #79
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The main difference between writing Trek and writing general fiction is that, at this late date, you don't need to explain or describe the basics. For example, you don't really have to describe the bridge or transporter room in detail or mention that Vulcans have pointed ears--unless you're telling a scene from the POV of a character who is unfamiliar with such things. "Her eyes widened at the sight of the stranger's pointed ears," etc.
Thanks for the tips Mr. Cox. I am having fun learning about writing fiction. Every time I read a little more in one of my books on writing I think of a way to improve my story. It's been fun.
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Old January 22 2014, 08:29 AM   #80
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With my story, what I've actually ended up writing is almost nothing like what I original thought of when I first started the outline a year or two ago. It started out fairly small and simple, but has gotten a bigger and lot more complex as I've gone on ... I've had a blast building this thing and that's really all I care about right now.
We should compare notes, JD. I'm writing a sci-fi/fantasy book (for the challenge and to keep me occupied) - it's fun, isn't it? I've sketched out the basic skeleton of the entire novel, and currently I'm about a third of the way through when it comes to writing it out in full. Around 150,000 words so far. I'm running it by family members and selected friends for feedback on the first draft.

I try to write a page a night if I can.
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Old January 22 2014, 04:53 PM   #81
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Holy cow, I've never written an entire novel that ran as much as 150,000 words. You've already written the equivalent of a 500 to 600-page paperback novel. And you're only a third of the way through?

A very important thing for writers to learn is editing, making one's writing concise. You often find in the revision process that there's a lot of stuff you didn't actually need. My first draft of Only Superhuman was 124,000 words and the second was 130,000, but the version that actually sold is about 115,000. Some writers say one should always try to cut a first draft by at least 10 percent.

And one of the problems I had in those first two drafts was the common problem of "walking to the plot" -- beginning too early in the story and showing the characters heading toward the initial crisis situation and getting ready, rather than just starting with the crisis already underway.
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Old January 22 2014, 07:13 PM   #82
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Holy cow, I've never written an entire novel that ran as much as 150,000 words. You've already written the equivalent of a 500 to 600-page paperback novel. And you're only a third of the way through?

A very important thing for writers to learn is editing, making one's writing concise. You often find in the revision process that there's a lot of stuff you didn't actually need.
Oh, indeed, I have no doubt I'll be cutting a lot. In my defence, it's the first draft of my first attempt at a novel, so I imagine the editing will be ruthless. It's more a project for my own enjoyment than anything, and I'm still in the early stages, but we'll see how it goes. I probably tried to be too ambitious; I'm going to see how the whole thing plays out before I decide where to start trimming.

Of course, given some of my posts on this forum, I don't think many people would be surprised to learn that my biggest problem is waffling on at length, that I need to learn to be concise...
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Old January 23 2014, 01:52 AM   #83
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With my story, what I've actually ended up writing is almost nothing like what I original thought of when I first started the outline a year or two ago. It started out fairly small and simple, but has gotten a bigger and lot more complex as I've gone on ... I've had a blast building this thing and that's really all I care about right now.
We should compare notes, JD. I'm writing a sci-fi/fantasy book (for the challenge and to keep me occupied) - it's fun, isn't it? I've sketched out the basic skeleton of the entire novel, and currently I'm about a third of the way through when it comes to writing it out in full. Around 150,000 words so far. I'm running it by family members and selected friends for feedback on the first draft.

I try to write a page a night if I can.
Mine is just something I work on a little bit here and there. I've been working on it since Oct. 2012, and I'm only 43 pages and 16,000 words into the first draft. Honestly, that's already 43 pages more than I thought I would ever actually write when I first started work on the project. It's mainly just something I'm doing for fun, so I haven't really pushed myself very hard to really dig in. Although most of those 43 pages have been written in the last few months. And I've gone back several times to change things, and rewrite who sections, so I've actually probably typed more words and pages than what are actually recorded.
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Old January 23 2014, 01:54 AM   #84
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^I take it your manuscript is single-spaced, then.
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Old January 23 2014, 02:08 AM   #85
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I have a half finished 2nd draft of a fan fic lying around I wrote 20 years ago, weighing 200,000 words. Good times.
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Old January 24 2014, 12:48 AM   #86
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The Star Trek story I'm working on is a hair under 159,000 words.
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Old January 24 2014, 05:38 AM   #87
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^I take it your manuscript is single-spaced, then.
Yeah. Are most manuscripts double spaced?
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Old January 24 2014, 06:43 AM   #88
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^ Yes. And most publishable manuscripts clock in at fewer than 125,000 words.
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^ Yes. And most publishable manuscripts clock in at fewer than 125,000 words.
I assume the double spacing is for proof reading/editing/inserting (hand written) notes in the manuscript purposes.
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Old January 24 2014, 08:25 PM   #90
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^ Correct.
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