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Old January 19 2014, 02:07 AM   #331
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It seems that they decided on a standard size for Into Darkness. ST09 was fairly consistent, as well. The biggest "design flaw" regarding is the size is the placement and size of various windows and portholes. It doesn't necessarily follow that those wouldn't be larger, as well, to accommodate a larger ship.

On the other hand, it's just a show. I should really just relax.
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Old January 19 2014, 06:53 AM   #332
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Maybe the windows are taller than the average person lol
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Old January 19 2014, 12:37 PM   #333
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Without turning this into another Ship Size Argument thread...
The deck heights established in set plans for the stacked turbolift lobby/plaza area are a perfect fit for a 725m Enterprise - the 16 saucer decks line up perfectly with the windows at the rim and the domes at the top and bottom (which you'll see on my cutaway when it's finished)

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Old January 19 2014, 03:50 PM   #334
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And there's sufficient room for Jeffries tubes in between there. Good.
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Old January 21 2014, 04:19 AM   #335
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I've seen mention of these set plans for Into Darkness, but I haven't seen them yet. Where would I be able to find them?
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Old January 21 2014, 11:07 AM   #336
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There's a pretty good article on the set design of STID starting on page 48 of the Sept-Oct 2013 issue of Perspective: The Journal of the Art Directors Guild. You can download it from this page (link) or download the specific issue from this link (click the floppy disc icon).

I particularly liked the discussion of the design of the K'normian ship and how the interior layout was informed by the dramatic thrust of the scene (characters in opposition at this point in the story, so they literally have their backs to each other). It points out how much of an art set design is and how good set design enhances the emotions of a scene.
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Old January 21 2014, 12:23 PM   #337
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"...reassembly information that hadn't been kept..."
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Old January 21 2014, 10:10 PM   #338
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Are you actually surprised that someone forgot to store or someone lost some instructions?
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Old January 21 2014, 10:13 PM   #339
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Nice link, Maurice! The June/July '09 issue has some stuff on Abrams' first Trek. Of minor note, that big tall circular thing behind Nero's chair is the Narada's "communicore"

EDIT: Is the Lawrence Miller mentioned in the "milestones" section as having died in April '09 the guy behind all those blueprint packs in the 80's and 90's?
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I've seen mention of these set plans for Into Darkness, but I haven't seen them yet. Where would I be able to find them?
They're all somewhere in this thread, with links to the original sources. There should a plans view of the interconnected Enterprise set, plan and elevations of the turbolift plaza CG model and detailed plans of Harry Mudd's trade ship.
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Old January 21 2014, 11:16 PM   #340
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EDIT: Is the Lawrence Miller mentioned in the "milestones" section as having died in April '09 the guy behind all those blueprint packs in the 80's and 90's?
Probably not the same one. I haven't yet spotted the mention in Perspective, but that April '09 date points to this guy, while the Larry Miller of Starbase 79 (who I think is also the blueprint guy) appears still to be active.

(And then there's another Larry Miller, who was an animator on all of the ST-TAS episodes.)
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Old January 21 2014, 11:25 PM   #341
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Thanks for the info. I didn't know the Trek blueprint Lawrence Miller had a site - it didn't turn up when I Googled "Lawrence Miller Star Trek blueprints". Glad he's still with us!
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Old January 21 2014, 11:37 PM   #342
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Thanks for the info. I didn't know the Trek blueprint Lawrence Miller had a site - it didn't turn up when I Googled "Lawrence Miller Star Trek blueprints". Glad he's still with us!
I turned up a few mentions at Cygnus-X1 (some as Lawrence and some as Larry) and followed a link.
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Old January 21 2014, 11:52 PM   #343
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I got (via the mobile google site) all the cygnus-x1 links to scans of his old stuff, a couple of Amazon pages selling them and a few sites discussing them. Nothing direct to the site you gave me, although I guess I should have clicked around on the pages discussing his work and investigated more before posting.
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Old January 22 2014, 01:47 AM   #344
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I've seen mention of these set plans for Into Darkness, but I haven't seen them yet. Where would I be able to find them?
They're all somewhere in this thread, with links to the original sources. There should a plans view of the interconnected Enterprise set, plan and elevations of the turbolift plaza CG model and detailed plans of Harry Mudd's trade ship.
I must be completely blind, because I've gone through the thread twice now and I still can't find these links... Sorry to ask, but would you be able to post them so I might be able to locate them easier, please?
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Old January 22 2014, 12:02 PM   #345
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The trade ship and warp core: http://www.adg.org/?art=member_profi...scottschneider

Early Vengeance and final garbage truck stuff here: www.kadonaga.net

I've got to be somewhere in a few minutes, I'll hunt more down later.
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