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Old December 21 2013, 11:48 PM   #631
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Re: IDW Star Trek Ongoing...

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Just read 28... Wow. Well done. And I actually had the TOS end credits playing in my head at the end
Yep. Quite satisfying. Some will say events were predictable, but I didn't see one twist coming until I saw it speculated here.
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Old December 22 2013, 02:30 PM   #632
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I finished the last Khitomer Conflict issue yesterday. I was pleased with the ending. I think it's my favorite arc so far in the new Trek books. Some of them have great beginnings and then the endings are fumbled or are less than satisfying. I thought the Khitomer Conflict was wrapped up pretty well.
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Old December 22 2013, 03:25 PM   #633
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The 4-issue format makes such a difference IMO. The first issue of the Vulcan's Fury story was really intriguing. It could have been really awesome if the story had been played out over two additional issues.
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Old December 22 2013, 10:04 PM   #634
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I agree. The Vulcan story was such a let down.
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Old December 22 2013, 11:40 PM   #635
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I think I'll go to the IDW forums and leave some good feedback.
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Old December 23 2013, 10:46 PM   #636
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I was rather disappointed with this arc. "The Khitomer Conflict" didn't feel like TOS at all. Kirk has no agency in the story and the plot rather resolves itself rather than Kirk taking action to resolve it. The end is resolved by the intervention of Section 31. Kirk does nothing clever and reacts more than acts in the story. And the reveal of Sulu's sister wasn't really a twist. You could see it coming a parsec away.
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Old December 24 2013, 01:24 AM   #637
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I was rather disappointed with this arc. "The Khitomer Conflict" didn't feel like TOS at all. Kirk has no agency in the story and the plot rather resolves itself rather than Kirk taking action to resolve it. The end is resolved by the intervention of Section 31. Kirk does nothing clever and reacts more than acts in the story. And the reveal of Sulu's sister wasn't really a twist. You could see it coming a parsec away.
It's true that Kirk was swept along by events. I'm hoping they'll build on it. Fool me once, shame on you sort of thing so that the next encounter will be a more even duel.

The notion that Kirk or Spock always have to save the day (or Scotty if it's a ship problem) is one of the things that dates TOS. However, I also don't like it when they have to 'force' characters to save the day e.g. Chekov is suddenly a transporter whiz and has to run all the way from the bridge to perform a task that really should be within the capabilities of any trained officer etc.

I do prefer it when a character is allowed to perform well in their chosen field instead of gifting that to someone else e.g. Spock carrying out code-breaking and communications repairs in TOS; Chapel assisting instead of leading bio-research etc. I suppose I also have to concede that if the characters never do anything outside that field they'll stagnate.

I hope the comic can maintain a better balance overall.
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Old December 25 2013, 07:56 AM   #638
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The notion that Kirk or Spock always have to save the day (or Scotty if it's a ship problem) is one of the things that dates TOS. However, I also don't like it when they have to 'force' characters to save the day e.g. Chekov is suddenly a transporter whiz and has to run all the way from the bridge to perform a task that really should be within the capabilities of any trained officer etc.

I do prefer it when a character is allowed to perform well in their chosen field instead of gifting that to someone else e.g. Spock carrying out code-breaking and communications repairs in TOS; Chapel assisting instead of leading bio-research etc. I suppose I also have to concede that if the characters never do anything outside that field they'll stagnate.

I hope the comic can maintain a better balance overall.
Having Kirk or Spock resolve the main problem doesn't date TOS — it's good storytelling, plain and simple. You want the lead character to resolve the story's problem, take action. Or in an ensemble, you want to person who is the focus of the story resolve the problem and take action. For example, HILL STREET BLUES. You want a character, say Furillo, to resolve the problem in his particular storyline while you'd want Detective Belker to resolve the one in his.

There was potential to have two storylines with Kirk and Sulu, where Kirk takes action on the overall plot of the Klingon conflict while Sulu has to resolve the subplot of his sister's loyalty. But neither Kirk nor Sulu act, they react from beginning to end. Honestly, in retrospect, this arc feels more like a TNG episode than a TOS one.
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Old January 7 2014, 10:17 AM   #639
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i'm kinda interested in seeing how the upcoming: Parallel Lives arc plays out. I mean the Enterprise crew meeting a gender-swap version of themselves would probably be interesting and weird at the same time.
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Old January 7 2014, 03:50 PM   #640
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I get the impression they won't be meeting their duplicates a la that Red Dwarf episode, but it'll just be another "Here's a parallel reality story" thing like their Mirror Universe 2-parter.
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Old January 7 2014, 11:13 PM   #641
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Pictures of Lieutenant Uhuro reminded me of Sisko from "Trials and Tribble-ations".

I wonder what female Spock's name could be. The whole concept reminds me of Kate Fenton's "Lions and Liquorice".

James Kirk usually addressed male officers with Mr and Uhura as lieutenant. I wonder whether Jane calls her senior officers Ms and Mrs.

I'm excited for these two issues.
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Old January 21 2014, 01:08 PM   #642
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Pictures of Lieutenant Uhuro reminded me of Sisko from "Trials and Tribble-ations".

I wonder what female Spock's name could be. The whole concept reminds me of Kate Fenton's "Lions and Liquorice".

James Kirk usually addressed male officers with Mr and Uhura as lieutenant. I wonder whether Jane calls her senior officers Ms and Mrs.

I'm excited for these two issues.

here's a preview http://www.startrek.com/article/capt...-takes-command

female Spock is really pretty
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Old January 21 2014, 03:15 PM   #643
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Why "Uhuro?" Granted, the name "Uhura" is a fake construction to begin with, taking the Swahili word uhuru and adding a Latin feminine suffix to it, so I guess they're doing the same with a masculine suffix; but why not just let it be Uhuru?

And shouldn't it be Pavlona Chekova?
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Old January 21 2014, 03:54 PM   #644
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Why "Uhuro?" Granted, the name "Uhura" is a fake construction to begin with, taking the Swahili word uhuru and adding a Latin feminine suffix to it, so I guess they're doing the same with a masculine suffix; but why not just let it be Uhuru?

And shouldn't it be Pavlona Chekova?

and it should be Pavlona Chekova

as for Uhura, it's stupid because her own father is also called Uhura (Alhamisi Uhura, not canon but used in many different sources including her bios in the official star trek app), it's not her first name and shouldn't have a female or male variant.
technically the first name they chose for male Nyota, NMandi, is a different name and might change the origins a bit (as it is from Nigeria while Uhura/Nyota is from Kenya)
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Old January 22 2014, 12:11 AM   #645
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In the 21st century, many people choose their own surnames. A friend of mine, who has never married, nor had a de facto relationship, officially changed her surname by deed poll, and then changed it again a few years later because everyone kept spelling it incorrectly. She's also had three totally different first names.

I teach many children who have names that are nothing like the names on their birth certificates.
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