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Old January 18 2014, 04:32 AM   #1
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Who wants to see a TAS Remasered project?

(NOTE: I hope this is the right section to talk about The Animated Series as from what I can tell it doesn't have a section of its own.)

While I'm excited about the idea of a Blu-ray Remastered release for both Deep Space Nine and Voyager, I think what I actually want to see the most is something for The Animated Series!

The question is, if they did such a project, what would they do? Re-animated the whole show? Bring in new voice actors for the extras Jimmy Doohan and Majel Barrett did? Or maybe just a simple color correction job? It would be nice to see certain things that were colored pink to be changed.
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Old January 18 2014, 04:33 AM   #2
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Re: Who wants to see a TAS Remasered project?

I actually started a project like this a few years ago. But then life got in the way.
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Old January 18 2014, 05:18 AM   #3
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Re: Who wants to see a TAS RemasTered project?

I assume you meant "master" and not "maser"

Anyway, you're making the common error of conflating "revisionism" with "remastering". Remastering is making a new print/video of a film/show which has been degraded or had poor quality copies made in the past. Re-animating, changing voices, etc., is NOT remastering.

And as to doing what you suggest: No. Not interested.
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Old January 18 2014, 05:38 AM   #4
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Re: Who wants to see a TAS Remasered project?

Yeah, count me out too. TAS was the least popular of all the Trek series. Why would CBS bother to get new voice actors or new animators for it? Wouldn't it be more feasible to just make a new animated series if you're going to do that?
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Old January 18 2014, 05:43 AM   #5
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Re: Who wants to see a TAS Remasered project?

I would love to see a full-out balls-to-the-wall CGI remake of TAS.

They wouldn't even have to re-record any voice tracks or sound effects. Just keep all existing audio, but create new video.

Although, it should be noted that TAS is releasable on Blu-Ray right now.
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Old January 18 2014, 06:00 AM   #6
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Re: Who wants to see a TAS Remasered project?

Thirded. Not interested. Not at all.

We've had this discussion before, too, at least twice.

In those discussions, there were pretty clear indications that it would be problematic to agree sensibly on what constitutes errors in animation. There are some obvious snafus, such as misaligned cels, but just where to draw the line in how far to go "fixing" things would be a real problem.

It's also worth noting that the DVD release was botched (though, admittedly and fortunately, in only a relatively minor way) by "fixing" something that wasn't wrong in the first place (I'm thinking of the originally red color of the pocket universe in "The Time Trap").

For those reasons among others, I'm not interesting in anything beyond preserving what it was originally. It is what it is. It was what it was.
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Old January 18 2014, 06:06 AM   #7
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Re: Who wants to see a TAS Remasered project?

The only way this could REALLY work would be to obtain the "voices only" track from Filmation, use the now released original music, and THEN have your "balls to the wall" animation with it. That is the only approach that would interest me (as an animator)
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Old January 18 2014, 06:12 AM   #8
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Re: Who wants to see a TAS Remasered project?

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The only way this could REALLY work would be to obtain the "voices only" track from Filmation, use the now released original music, and THEN have your "balls to the wall" animation with it. That is the only approach that would interest me (as an animator)
What release of the original music? There's been no release of the TAS music, AFAIK.
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Old January 18 2014, 06:23 AM   #9
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Re: Who wants to see a TAS Remasered project?

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I would love to see a full-out balls-to-the-wall CGI remake of TAS.
If anything is to be done, this please. But, like the TOS Blu Rays, the original versions should be included to respect the original artists and animators, or my wallet stays shut

I suppose the best thing would be an all new animated TOS set towards the end of the FYM, but this ain't happening while the movies are being made.
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Old January 18 2014, 07:05 AM   #10
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Re: Who wants to see a TAS Remasered project?

No interest whatsoever. TAS is simply an oddity to me.
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Old January 18 2014, 01:17 PM   #11
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Re: Who wants to see a TAS Remasered project?

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The only way this could REALLY work would be to obtain the "voices only" track from Filmation, use the now released original [TOS] music, and THEN have your "balls to the wall" animation with it. That is the only approach that would interest me (as an animator)
I wholeheartedly agree. Before anyone gets me wrong I do like TAS in its existing form and even think that it better reflects some of the original Roddenberry concepts than TOS.

But if it is the storytelling which matters (IMHO, it does) then it's important to make it palatable for a new generation of viewers that already like TOS, but will have a hard time getting over the animation style (which essentially is just the packing, but it is the content that matters).

If the animation style and repetitive TAS music distracts new viewers from enjoying TAS, then remaster it by all means. Personally I'd really love to see it.

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Old January 18 2014, 05:53 PM   #12
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The only way this could REALLY work would be to obtain the "voices only" track from Filmation, use the now released original music, and THEN have your "balls to the wall" animation with it. That is the only approach that would interest me (as an animator)
What release of the original music? There's been no release of the TAS music, AFAIK.
I think he means TOS music--re-scoring the TAS episodes with TOS musical cues. (That would interesting; TOS music is almost a Trek character all by itself.)
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Old January 18 2014, 05:56 PM   #13
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Re: Who wants to see a TAS Remasered project?

In many respects TAS is the "lost" series since it's not uncommon to encounter people who never knew of its existence. It came along with a scant twenty-two episodes and then practically disappeared for the most part afterward except for die-hard fans.

I'm fine with cleaning up the original prints, but anything more than that not so much. My criticisms of TAS go beyond what's actually on the screen. Many of the stories really needed to be fleshed out more and you can't do that unless you're basically starting from scratch, and if you're starting from scratch then you should just make an entirely new show rather than remake an old one.

It is what it is even without the things we'd like to have seen. I feel much the same as I did with TOS in that I feel TOS-R went too far. We are already seeing new sequences of TOS-R being used as reference material about TOS. In a recent special called The Truth Behind Star Trek they were referencing when GR finally got the show on the air, and yet they were using TOS-R footage rather than the original footage. I found that truly misleading because that certainly isn't what viewers saw in 1966-69 and for decades of reruns.

No, clean up the prints but leave TAS alone.
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Old January 18 2014, 06:06 PM   #14
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Re: Who wants to see a TAS Remasered project?

I'd like to see TAS remastered (in the actual sense of that word) and to have more of the writers record commentaries for the episodes they wrote. But a "special edition" version? No thanks. That's not going to resolve the show's fundamental problems, anyways (flimsy stories and weak voice acting).
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Old January 18 2014, 06:07 PM   #15
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Re: Who wants to see a TAS Remasered project?

Count me as one that would be interested in the series being updated with modern animation. I'd even like to see an episode re-voiced by the actors involved with the current films. *ducks*

But I would also want the original unaltered episodes included on any release.
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