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Old January 16 2014, 02:00 PM   #46
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Re: Sir Patrick Stewart Set the Standard

Untrue! From the first, you ... you people ... have been derailing the topic of this thread - with assorted Shatner comparisons - which was meant to acknowledge and, perhaps, even celebrate the abilities and fine achievements of Sir Patrick Stewart and what he's brought to the STAR TREK legacy. And the fact is that William Shatner is not interested in maintaining his physique and has not been, since the 8O's. Am I meant to pretend otherwise? As to his acting abilities, they are what they are ... but, again, this thread is about Patrick Stewart, after all.
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Old January 16 2014, 02:41 PM   #47
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Untrue! From the first, you ... you people ... have been derailing the topic of this thread - with assorted Shatner comparisons - which was meant to acknowledge and, perhaps, even celebrate the abilities and fine achievements of Sir Patrick Stewart and what he's brought to the STAR TREK legacy. And the fact is that William Shatner is not interested in maintaining his physique and has not been, since the 8O's. Am I meant to pretend otherwise? As to his acting abilities, they are what they are ... but, again, this thread is about Patrick Stewart, after all.
You asked for opinions.

So ... I was curious to see how many of you agree with this assessment that TNG's overall improved acting quality was - at least in part - due to Sir Patrick Stewart.
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Old January 16 2014, 03:10 PM   #48
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Re: Sir Patrick Stewart Set the Standard

I'm on the edge of closing this thread before it turns into a self-righteous food fight. Please cool the personal arguments and stick to the subject with some relevant content.
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Old January 16 2014, 03:33 PM   #49
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It's hard for me to believe that some of the powers that be behind TNG didn't want Patrick Stewart at first. It's just crazy to me that they almost missed him and probably would have gone with someone more like Kirk.
Riker was intended to be the "Kirk", so it's unlikely they's cast someone like Kirk for Picard.
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Old January 16 2014, 03:45 PM   #50
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It's hard for me to believe that some of the powers that be behind TNG didn't want Patrick Stewart at first. It's just crazy to me that they almost missed him and probably would have gone with someone more like Kirk.
Riker was intended to be the "Kirk", so it's unlikely they's cast someone like Kirk for Picard.
That's because DC Fontana, I believe, pointed in the 1970s it made bad tactical sense for the captain and first officer and chief medical officer to endanger themselves together in away missions like always happened in TOS. If they died, the crew and the ship would be crippled.

So GR created Riker+Picard and that talk about away teams since their first scenes in the pilot.

The result was TNG Season One of course.
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Old January 16 2014, 06:03 PM   #51
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2takesfrakes wrote: View Post
Untrue! From the first, you ... you people ... have been derailing the topic of this thread - with assorted Shatner comparisons - which was meant to acknowledge and, perhaps, even celebrate the abilities and fine achievements of Sir Patrick Stewart and what he's brought to the STAR TREK legacy. And the fact is that William Shatner is not interested in maintaining his physique and has not been, since the 8O's. Am I meant to pretend otherwise? As to his acting abilities, they are what they are ... but, again, this thread is about Patrick Stewart, after all.
Ah but you mention Shatner in your first post.
(Shatner just gave his usual Shatner peformance in Generations, unfortunately)
which prompted most of the reactions.

No one as far as I can tell is taking anything away from Patrick Stewart at all.. he is a great actor and very personable when dealing with fans (whatever the franchise).

If you want to applaud Patrick Stewart abilities I am right with you, a Tour de Force actor. but not at the expanse of another.

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Old January 16 2014, 06:05 PM   #52
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Makarov wrote: View Post
It's hard for me to believe that some of the powers that be behind TNG didn't want Patrick Stewart at first. It's just crazy to me that they almost missed him and probably would have gone with someone more like Kirk.
Riker was intended to be the "Kirk", so it's unlikely they's cast someone like Kirk for Picard.
That's because DC Fontana, I believe, pointed in the 1970s it made bad tactical sense for the captain and first officer and chief medical officer to endanger themselves together in away missions like always happened in TOS. If they died, the crew and the ship would be crippled.

So GR created Riker+Picard and that talk about away teams since their first scenes in the pilot.

The result was TNG Season One of course.
Makes a lot of sense not taking all the command crew down as away team. would never have worked on the TOS at least for me..
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Re: Sir Patrick Stewart Set the Standard

After a PM request from the OP, I'm closing this thread. Sorry to have to do so.
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