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Old January 16 2014, 01:34 AM   #91
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I think the NuTrek 3 villain will be Starfleet itself. They will decide to become an expansionist empire, using the super transporters to beam across the quadrant to invade other worlds, whilst Khan-Blood injections will keep their army going strong and resurrecting them when they are shot down, making the Starfleet ground forces pretty much unstoppable.
Kirk was in recovery for 2 weeks. I don't think it's much use in the field.
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Old January 16 2014, 01:38 AM   #92
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Kirk was in recovery for 2 weeks. I don't think it's much use in the field.
Kirk also had a full body lethal radiation massage. The blood might be somewhat more effective against stab wounds and phaser burns.
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Old January 16 2014, 03:58 AM   #93
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It's also possible that the Klingons are just biding their time and waiting for the right time to strike.
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Old January 16 2014, 12:08 PM   #94
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Kirk was in recovery for 2 weeks. I don't think it's much use in the field.
Kirk also had a full body lethal radiation massage. The blood might be somewhat more effective against stab wounds and phaser burns.
Ah yes but as a convenient plot device it can be as magical as the writers want/need it to be, so whose to say that with some 23rd century tinkering it couldn't help a ground-pounder regrow a limb
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Old January 25 2014, 03:52 AM   #95
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they should have a new badguy/alien as a threat instead, largely because I tend not to think of the "nu-Trek" films as canon, more as standalone non canon action sci-fi films, that's the only way I can really enjoy them, as action films set in an alternate Trek verse but not directly part of the Star Trek franchise.
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Old January 27 2014, 09:58 AM   #96
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That's the problem with new Star Trek thinking. It's more concerned with "villains" than with "concepts."
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Old January 27 2014, 03:29 PM   #97
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That's the problem with new Star Trek thinking. It's more concerned with "villains" than with "concepts."
and that differs how exactly from previous Star Trek movies?
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Old January 27 2014, 10:06 PM   #98
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That's the problem with new Star Trek thinking. It's more concerned with "villains" than with "concepts."
and that differs how exactly from previous Star Trek movies?
TMP was a true sci-fi concept. TWoK is meditation on aging, death, and renewal. The Genesis Device (creating and destroying at the same time) is an interesting sci-fi concept which is paid off in Trek III, where the answer is that there are no short-cuts to evolution and it asks questions about the soul/identity. Star Trek IV is ecologically minded (one of the most well-loved of the films, although it doesn't feature big space battles or fight scenes). Star Trek V is high-minded (do we need our pain? what would qualify one as God), although goofy and poorly executed. The Undiscovered Country is familiar grist for the mill (e.g., latent racism, fear of change).

The TNG movies have some legit concepts, but admittedly get progressively action-minded. The later films deserve a fair share of the blame for why we're speculating about which revenge-driven meglomaniac will show up in the next big black dreadnaught.

What are the "big concepts" in nuTrek? There are bigger ships, but apart from Kirk having to learn to play by the rules while ultimately being rewarded breaking them seems to be about it.
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Old January 27 2014, 10:46 PM   #99
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I guess you somehow missed the flat condemnation of America's warfare policies? It was a modern day allegory.


And I think you mean "The Changeling" is a "true sci-fi concept", not TMP.
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Old January 27 2014, 10:49 PM   #100
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TMP turned "The Changeling" inside out, transforming the monster-of-the-week into the story's true protagonist.
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Old January 27 2014, 10:53 PM   #101
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One powerful enough to replicate human beings down to the smallest detail, but too stupid to wipe the muck off it's nameplate. :-/
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Old January 27 2014, 11:08 PM   #102
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He's smart but a slob, sounds about right.
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