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Old January 12 2014, 06:45 PM   #1
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Where are those big windows on the Enterprise model on the set?

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/File...terprise-D.jpg

The windows seem to be too big.
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Old January 12 2014, 07:27 PM   #2
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Re: Where are those big windows on the Enterprise model on the set?

What's also odd is that they seem to effectively be the floor, unless the artificial gravity direction is different in those parts of the ship.

Could they perhaps be windows for the oft-rumoured cetacean crew members quarters / workspaces?
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Old January 13 2014, 12:37 PM   #3
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Re: Where are those big windows on the Enterprise model on the set?

What's wrong with windows on the floor? They don't take up that much room when compared to the windows on the upper decks, I would love it if my quarters had bottom windows. I'd be willing to trade a third of my floor for a feature like that. Maybe the quarters are even a little bit bigger to make up for the lost floor space.
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Old January 13 2014, 12:40 PM   #4
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Re: Where are those big windows on the Enterprise model on the set?

vulcan redshirt wrote: View Post
What's also odd is that they seem to effectively be the floor, unless the artificial gravity direction is different in those parts of the ship.

Could they perhaps be windows for the oft-rumoured cetacean crew members quarters / workspaces?
Would a cetacean need brightly lit quarters? Their natural environment deep in an ocean is generally a lot darker.
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Old January 13 2014, 03:12 PM   #5
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Re: Where are those big windows on the Enterprise model on the set?

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Would a cetacean need brightly lit quarters? Their natural environment deep in an ocean is generally a lot darker.
On Earth deep ocean creatures are adapted to a lack of sunlight, they're also not eligible to be crew members, since they're not intelligent. Who knows what cetacean lifeforms from other worlds would require.
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Old January 13 2014, 05:26 PM   #6
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Re: Where are those big windows on the Enterprise model on the set?

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Too big for what?

The answer to your question is: they weren't on any set. They were never seen internally.
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Old January 13 2014, 05:43 PM   #7
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Re: Where are those big windows on the Enterprise model on the set?

perhaps they could be a gallery/view port around the Captains Yacht. and those windows giving an awesome
view to launch crews

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Old January 13 2014, 07:53 PM   #8
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Re: Where are those big windows on the Enterprise model on the set?

There's a lot about Probert's design and original 6-footer that never got utilized in the show. His idea for the saucer edge, the arboretum ceiling, some of the phaser strips, the captain's yacht, and the main shuttlebay*. What was the point of adding the shuttlebay to the design if they only used the ones on the neck? Then there are things that you can't find on the Enterprise model. So the neck has two shuttlebays - what about the cargo bays? Where are they?

*I think the main bay was used twice during the show- Cause and Effect and BOBW Part 2. The interior layout is never seen or known.
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Old January 13 2014, 08:52 PM   #9
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Re: Where are those big windows on the Enterprise model on the set?

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Would a cetacean need brightly lit quarters? Their natural environment deep in an ocean is generally a lot darker.
On Earth deep ocean creatures are adapted to a lack of sunlight, they're also not eligible to be crew members, since they're not intelligent. Who knows what cetacean lifeforms from other worlds would require.
Physics is physics, thought. Light will only penetrate so deeply into a liquid body.

Now, alien cetacean creatures may live more in the shallow end of the ocean, who knows. But, then, would they fit the definition of cetacean as opposed to amphibian?
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Old January 15 2014, 02:03 AM   #10
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Re: Where are those big windows on the Enterprise model on the set?

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What's wrong with windows on the floor? They don't take up that much room when compared to the windows on the upper decks, I would love it if my quarters had bottom windows. I'd be willing to trade a third of my floor for a feature like that. Maybe the quarters are even a little bit bigger to make up for the lost floor space.
why, you think you couldnt step on them?
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Old January 15 2014, 02:23 AM   #11
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Re: Where are those big windows on the Enterprise model on the set?

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On Earth deep ocean creatures are adapted to a lack of sunlight, they're also not eligible to be crew members, since they're not intelligent.
Not intelligent? Dolphins serve in the Navy NOW. Veteran minesweeping dolphins are currently being interviewed for the National Archives about their experiences - seriously: interviewed. And the Indian government recently banned keeping Dolphins in captivity for shows, and issued this statement:

Whereas cetaceans in general are highly intelligent and sensitive, and various scientists who have researched dolphin behavior have suggested that the unusually high intelligence; as compared to other animals means that dolphins should be seen as ‘non-human persons’ and as such should have their own specific rights and is morally unacceptable to keep them captive for entertainment purpose.

Given more advanced tech and further research, I find it entirely possible that the "cetacean ops" section could be populated by alien and/or Terran cetaceans.

(Sorry if this seems overly defensive, but as far as I know, they aren't on TrekBBS yet , so I felt the need to speak up for them.)
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Old January 15 2014, 12:25 PM   #12
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Re: Where are those big windows on the Enterprise model on the set?

How does one interview a dolphin?
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Old January 15 2014, 12:41 PM   #13
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Re: Where are those big windows on the Enterprise model on the set?

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perhaps they could be a gallery/view port around the Captains Yacht. and those windows giving an awesome view to launch Crews.
If I'm not mistaken that would mostly be the window section at the bow right ahead of the Captain's Yacht. Probably some means of visual approach control.

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Old January 15 2014, 12:59 PM   #14
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Re: Where are those big windows on the Enterprise model on the set?

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perhaps they could be a gallery/view port around the Captains Yacht. and those windows giving an awesome view to launch Crews.
If I'm not mistaken that would mostly be the window section at the bow right ahead of the Captain's Yacht. Probably some means of visual approach control.

Bob
yes.. I go with that.

at least that's the idea I got from the painting.
would have made a great scene if ever show of the Yacht departing..
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Old January 15 2014, 01:06 PM   #15
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Re: Where are those big windows on the Enterprise model on the set?

The windows inside the phaser ring on the bottom are set inside recesses and look to be angled differently than the ones outside the phaser ring.

My question is, are the windows in the center (the larger ones in front of NCC-1701-D) supposed to be 10 Forward? If they are, 10 Forward was closed at the time.
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