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Old January 7 2014, 04:15 AM   #121
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^ Glad you gave Kill/Heal a chance, and that you enjoyed them. I remain proud of those, all these years later, along with my Treklit solo prose debut, SCE: Wildfire.
Honestly, despite many other amazing novels that I've also loved, Wildfire remains my favorite of yours.
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Old January 7 2014, 05:06 AM   #122
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Thanks. It was a deeply personal work, full of veiled autobiographical material. I also wrote it in the emotional aftermath of the 9/11 attacks, which as a New Yorker I witnessed first-hand on the street. Consequently, it's got a lot going on in a very limited number of words.
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Old January 7 2014, 09:18 AM   #123
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^ Glad you gave Kill/Heal a chance, and that you enjoyed them. I remain proud of those, all these years later, along with my Treklit solo prose debut, SCE: Wildfire.
I just wanted to tell you that Wildfire is what brought me back into Trek Literature after more than a decade. I bought the book because I saw it at a used book store for cheap and it had a Sabre on the cover! When Fleet Captains (the board game) came out, I decided to try the book to keep my interest up for the game...and ended up getting into Trek Lit in a big way (without having even gotten around to playing the game). The story was very well done.
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Old January 12 2014, 03:41 PM   #124
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Just finished A Time for War and Peace by KRAD...

this was a weird book in that it wasn't a single story but a large series of vignettes that took place right before Nemesis. I enjoyed it, but I was disappointed there wasn't a subplot about Shinzon and Romulus. I was looking forward to getting that situation fleshed out as well. I was also expecting Die Hard Worf to last longer than it did and maybe be the primary story, but given the threat level involved I guess that wouldn't make much sense

Was the hologram Kahless thing established in a previous book? And I'm assuming this isn't the first appearance of Nan Bacco, since they reference her meeting the crew before?
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Old January 12 2014, 03:51 PM   #125
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I was disappointed there wasn't a subplot about Shinzon and Romulus. I was looking forward to getting that situation fleshed out as well.
See Dave Mack's "Twilight's Wrath" in Tales of the Dominion War.


And I'm assuming this isn't the first appearance of Nan Bacco, since they reference her meeting the crew before?
Actually it is her first appearance. Not every prior meeting of characters is actually depicted in a story (cf. Leila Kalomi, Areel Shaw, Philippa Louvois, Lenara Kahn...)
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Old January 12 2014, 06:26 PM   #126
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If I'm not mistaken, Leila Kalomi meets Spock for the first time in TOS: Inception. Their evolving acquaintance from the first meeting to the goodbye was well-handled, Imho.
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Old January 12 2014, 07:45 PM   #127
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The point is that in her earliest appearance on television in 1967, she was a newly created character who was nonetheless presented as someone Spock had known years before. So just because the main characters already know a guest character, that doesn't necessarily mean the character appeared in an earlier story. A prequel published over 40 years later doesn't count.
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Old January 12 2014, 10:33 PM   #128
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this was a weird book in that it wasn't a single story but a large series of vignettes that took place right before Nemesis. I enjoyed it, but I was disappointed there wasn't a subplot about Shinzon and Romulus. I was looking forward to getting that situation fleshed out as well.
Our goal was to set up the Enterprise crew for Nemesis. In the movie, the Romulan coup was a surprise that came out of nowhere, so there really wasn't anything to set up. I can honestly say that the notion of doing any setup of Shinzon was never at any point discussed by any of the eight people involved in the creation of the miniseries (the two editors and the six writers).


I was also expecting Die Hard Worf to last longer than it did and maybe be the primary story, but given the threat level involved I guess that wouldn't make much sense
That was fun, but there wasn't a need to stretch that out over the whole book. Besides, I had other fish to fry.


Was the hologram Kahless thing established in a previous book? And I'm assuming this isn't the first appearance of Nan Bacco, since they reference her meeting the crew before?
No, the hologram Kahless was all me, though I was using that particular subplot to build on stuff established in The Left Hand of Destiny (and also reconciling Kahless going on walkabout at the end of that duology with his chronologically later appearance as Klingon emperor in Christie Golden's Voyager novels).

As for Bacco, that was, indeed, her first appearance, though I retrofitted her into the backstory and aftermath of the Gorn Crisis graphic novel by Kevin J. Anderson, Rebecca Moesta, and Igor Kordey (which has actually been the basis of most of the 24th-century Gorn stories....), which included an attack on the Federation colony on Cestus III.
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Old January 12 2014, 11:57 PM   #129
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Why the decision to make the new Federation President a sympathetic helpful character? Authority figures usually serve to add tension, not relieve it
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Old January 13 2014, 12:06 AM   #130
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No doubt because Bacco was inspired largely by Jed Bartlet on The West Wing. Or maybe Keith was just tired of the cliche of the obstructionist, inept authority figure.
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Old January 13 2014, 04:13 AM   #131
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No doubt because Bacco was inspired largely by Jed Bartlet on The West Wing. Or maybe Keith was just tired of the cliche of the obstructionist, inept authority figure.
As a reader, I took it as KRAD wanting to do a story about good leadership, both to contrast with Min Zife (very definitely a story about bad leadership) and, I inferred, to express the optimism that the Federation is supposed to stand for in Star Trek.
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Old January 13 2014, 07:53 AM   #132
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Why the decision to make the new Federation President a sympathetic helpful character? Authority figures usually serve to add tension, not relieve it
Not always. And it's a well Trek has dipped into waaaay too often. But that's far from the only purpose authority figures serve, especially in a franchise that's supposed to be about humanity being better.


Also I'm quoting both Christopher and Sci, who are both absolutely right in what they say:
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No doubt because Bacco was inspired largely by Jed Bartlet on The West Wing. Or maybe Keith was just tired of the cliche of the obstructionist, inept authority figure.
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As a reader, I took it as KRAD wanting to do a story about good leadership, both to contrast with Min Zife (very definitely a story about bad leadership) and, I inferred, to express the optimism that the Federation is supposed to stand for in Star Trek.
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Old January 21 2014, 11:25 PM   #133
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So I've been reading the books surrounding Nemesis and I really love how it feels like a single running storyline that's important to the characters and the universe. Back in the day when the shows were airing the novels were standalone out of necessity but I love how it's one big saga now.

I read "Death In Winter" then I went onto "Articles of Federation", but a few pages into it I found out I missed something vitally important in the first Titan novel, so I had to go back and read that!

Reading Articles of the Federation... really makes me wanna go back and watch The West Wing again

I'm almost tempted to re-read the Destiny trilogy right away, now that I actually know who all the people in it are!
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Old January 21 2014, 11:40 PM   #134
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If you can, you should. I have a feeling that it is even better when you've followed the characters in the books leading up to it. I'd already read the books leading up to it before it came out, so I can't say for sure though.
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Old January 22 2014, 01:47 AM   #135
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Yeah when I read the Destiny trilogy it was pretty confusing because I was reading about thirty or so characters that I'd never heard of before And it felt like I was reading the second book of a series because they kept referencing all these recent encounters with the Borg.
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