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Old January 10 2014, 10:35 PM   #196
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too many secondary (and thirderary--is that a word? It is now )
The word you're looking for is tertiary.
I know, but I wasn't looking.
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Old January 10 2014, 11:04 PM   #197
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If the Phase II guys are running post the way professional TV shows do, it would then make sense that visual effects shots (i.e. the transporter beam-in being discussed) would be dropped into the cut before being locked, or at the very least prior to sound mixing and color-correction, which typically happen toward the end of the post-production cycle on a given episode. Chalk it up to red lighting muting out red beaming effects.
I see... have you ever done such work before? We know how we could have done it and we know what method we should do it in order to not overwhelm our post production team.
Actually, I have and I do. I worked in post on a MOW for Sony back in 2010, and then spent most of 2011 in post production on a show for ABC Studios, wherein I learned the ins and outs of modern television post-production. I worked for the writers after that and am now on a different show, again working for the writers.

In other words, I'm quite familiar with the process of television production.

As for what you can do, what you should do, and what you actually do, that is of course your business. I was merely trying to point out to others in this thread who might not be familiar with the post production process why the whole Klingon transporter beam snafu might have happened.
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Old January 10 2014, 11:06 PM   #198
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too many secondary (and thirderary--is that a word? It is now )
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Old January 11 2014, 12:14 AM   #199
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The word you're looking for is tertiary.
I know, but I wasn't looking.
Just trying to be helpful!
I appreciate the effort. Maybe I should be less subtle in my humor. Like this?
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Old January 11 2014, 03:15 AM   #200
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Curious about something......

In the past I had spent a lot of time on the Phase II forum and it seemed like a pretty hostile place in relation to the JJverse, the gist I got was that nobody over there by-in-large seemed to care for it, I even think JC himself spoke about how he didn't care for them.

That being said. Why the JJverse reference? I know it was in as a little joke (very little), I didn't think it was particularly funny and it felt out of place. On top of that it took place in an alternate timeline, I'm not sure why it was even referenced.

In fact if you wanted to make that same exact joke they could have just referenced a Piece of the Action instead.
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Old January 11 2014, 04:35 AM   #201
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Pony, I think separate congratulations air in order for your performance. K'sia was a regal character and I had no trouble seeing him as the tutor to an emperor. Also the fact that he could be brought up short by Spock's reasonable and logical assertion that a "diplomat or tutor might" need medical attention was a very nice touch. Well played, sir!
Absolutely! I was impressed with his performance as well, and I feel his character makes for a very believable bridge between what we see in TOS, and what we would eventually see in Chancellor Gorkon. Very well done!
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Old January 11 2014, 06:35 AM   #202
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Curious about something......

Why the JJverse reference? I know it was in as a little joke (very little), I didn't think it was particularly funny and it felt out of place. On top of that it took place in an alternate timeline, I'm not sure why it was even referenced.
It wasn't necessarily a JJ verse reference. In "The Way to Eden" Kirk talked Scotty down from a crotchety old bastard moment by noting that he (Krik) had gotten into some trouble at that age himself. He didn't say what kind of trouble, but why couldn't he have stolen a Corvette in that timeline as well? Nothing says he didn't.
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Old January 11 2014, 07:25 AM   #203
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Similar stories have even been published in fanzines over the years. This short story was one such example:

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Old January 11 2014, 02:49 PM   #204
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Except....let's be honest. It was a Trek '09 reference. I mean JC had a cameo in the movie it was pretty obvious that he was referring to that.

I just don't get it, no matter what context it was being used in. It just felt out of place no matter how you look at it.
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Old January 11 2014, 05:55 PM   #205
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Geekly's surly tone notwithstanding, it's a very good point that the same effect could have been had by referencing "A Piece of the Action."

I don't like the extra-TOS references either. If the point is to make you feel like you're watching Season 4 of TOS, having a hundred references to non-TOS Trek really cripples the immersion.

I loved Enterprise and didn't despise the first JJ movie, but they don't really belong here (in my personal opinion).
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Old January 11 2014, 07:28 PM   #206
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Curious about something......

Why the JJverse reference? I know it was in as a little joke (very little), I didn't think it was particularly funny and it felt out of place. On top of that it took place in an alternate timeline, I'm not sure why it was even referenced.
Cawley's never been shy about his loathing of the JJ Abrams films.



I mean, come on... I know it was done for laughs, but really guys? REALLY?
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Old January 11 2014, 08:31 PM   #207
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Loathing?!? take it down a notch, Doubleoh, you're reading a lot more than is actually there...
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Old January 11 2014, 10:33 PM   #208
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I thought it was a great little throwaway line. I love the Abrams movies, and I like that, even if James isn't a fan, the fact that it's in the episode shows a willingness to try and connect with every kind of Trek fan from new to old and everyone in between. Plus, I giggled.
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Old January 12 2014, 12:53 AM   #209
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Loathing?!? take it down a notch, Doubleoh, you're reading a lot more than is actually there...
Actually, I'm not. Anyone who has been friends with James Cawley on Facebook the past few years (last year in particular) can easily attest to his loathing of the JJ Abrams films.
I have no doubt the video above is more than likely a tongue-in-cheek effort. I am not disputing that. But the intent is very much there, whether you like it or not. Cawley hates those films. And he's perfectly within his right to feel that way and do as he pleases with regard to that feeling.

Pointing out, however, that "A" just happens to connect to "B" does not, in my not so humble opinion, constitute "reading a lot more than is actually there."
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Actually, you are. As someone who is friends with James and has hung around him the past two years (as anyone in that position will attest) James does NOT "Loathe" the JJ Verse. It simply isn't TOS or Trek to him and he elects not to watch it. He gave it a chance...but in the end it didn't work for him. He still supports JJ and CBS, but, well, "it's not his father's Star Trek." IF you look around you will find these words are James - whereas you won't find him stating "I LOATHE JJ Trek". The video in question was a joke that was done as a special, exclusive thing for FedCon. If it was a "Vignette" that was presented as part of Phase II you would be well to read more into it. It was just supposed to make fans at that convention laugh.
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