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Old January 9 2014, 02:04 PM   #1
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Stargate mythology

In the Stargate universe, we had aliens acting as Egyptian Gods and Norse Gods. Now all polytheistic religions have been fought be the monotheistic ones, Christianity, Judaism and Islam. Is the ONE God, and his representatives like Jesus and Mohammad, also supposed to be a powerful alien?

Any reasons why they didn't do it? The fight between polytheism and monotheism is one of the most interesting aspects of our culture. The idea that there was an alien who fought the Goa'uld "gods" and mercilessly slaughtered anyone who believed in them would have been interesting to pursue. Also the idea that he picked a certain special subgroup of humans and didn't care for anyone else who didn't believe in him.
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Old January 9 2014, 03:45 PM   #2
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They should have gone there, but Stargate was never about being controversial, so they didn't.
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Old January 9 2014, 04:49 PM   #3
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They had a Goa'uld who took on the persona of Satan, Sokar I think, and I seem to remember that they hinted at one being connected to christianity who was still living on Earth leading a cult or something.

But that's as far as they could go. I would bet TPTB would never allow them to risk alienating (pun intended) the majority of their viewers.
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Old January 9 2014, 07:27 PM   #4
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I would have certainly been interesting, but yeah, Stargate was never about that kind of heavy story. It was too much of an action/adventure show to do something so controversial.
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Old January 9 2014, 08:09 PM   #5
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In universe, polythesisim was the thing when the goa'uld came to earth, also works better when there is more than one goa'uld still running around. In reality, they probably wanted to avoid controversy.
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Old January 9 2014, 08:46 PM   #6
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Re: Stargate mythology

I would think that the Goa'uld would be incapable of impersonating Jesus, because His nature - self-sacrifice, compassion and brotherhood - would be incomprehensible to the Goa'uld.

On the other hand, Satan - being the father of lies - would be absolutely in line with Goa'uld nature. It was obviously easy for Sokar to impersonate the devil, because the Goa'uld basically act like that all the time anyway. But the things that Jesus preached? Those would be foreign concepts to the Goa'uld.
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Old January 9 2014, 09:01 PM   #7
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Their best bet would probably have been Jesus as a Tok'ra.
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Old January 9 2014, 09:08 PM   #8
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i always saw the last two seasons with the Ori as their take on Christianity.
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Old January 9 2014, 09:12 PM   #9
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If Jesus was a Tok'ra, then his Father must have been the Tok'ra queen. If she started life like any other Goa'uld and only "reformed" due to some mysterious event, it would go a long way towards explaining the difference between God in the Old and New Testaments.....

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Old January 9 2014, 09:31 PM   #10
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I would have made Jesus and Buddha ascended beings. The concept of ascension has a lot of similarities to enlightenment, nirvana, etc.
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Old January 9 2014, 09:42 PM   #11
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i always saw the last two seasons with the Ori as their take on Christianity.
Because it pretty much was.
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Old January 10 2014, 01:18 AM   #12
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The mythology of the show has always been a bit murky on the point as to whether the Goa'uld were the source of the "old gods" in human culture, or if they simply posed as deities that primitive humans were already worshipping.

I suppose it could be a mixture of the two since Ra's initial arrival appears to pre-date what we know of most ancient religions by several thousand years and yet it seems that other System Lords were active here in much later periods.

As for what the show could have done with monotheistic religions...I think it'd mostly have to be centred around the Alterans and Lantians, ascended and otherwise. That said, given their MO, I can't see any ascended being actively posing as the Judo-Christian-Islamic all powerful creator of the universe. Of course an Ori probably would, but we know they had no knowledge of or influence in this galaxy until recently. Plus even on their own turf, they always presented themselves as a multitude, not a singular. Probably because there's no way any of them would tolerate another trying to rise above the crowd. They'd see it as a threat and wipe out any followers.

There are some things they could do; like for example the story of the virgin birth, the resurrection and the philosophy of Christ in general has all the hallmarks of an ascended ancient trying to bypass the rules in an attempt to guide humanity towards enlightenment.
Artefacts like the staff of Moses and the Ark of the Covenant could quite easily be interpreted as pieces of ancient (possibly malfunctioning) technology. IIRC the latter's "supernatural" capabilities supposedly included being able to push back the waters of the river Jordan (not the Red Sea--different slightly later story) being deadly to the touch, or even striking dead a whole town of people that looked inside the box.

So maybe a force shield generator with an exposed (and highly radioactive) power source? Not really much of a story there, though I suppose one might cast Moses himself as either a "descended" ancient, a surviving Lantian (maybe even Moros himself) or a disciple of Oma. In this version of course Oma would be the messenger that met Moses atop Mount Sinai.
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Old January 10 2014, 10:19 AM   #13
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i always saw the last two seasons with the Ori as their take on Christianity.
Because it pretty much was.

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Old January 10 2014, 11:03 AM   #14
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O‘Neill putting a burst of automatic fire into Jesus ? Wouldn't play well with the networks...

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Old January 10 2014, 05:53 PM   #15
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O‘Neill putting a burst of automatic fire into Jesus ? Wouldn't play well with the networks...

But it would have been one of the most revered moments in fandom...
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