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Old January 7 2014, 03:48 PM   #16
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Re: Tablet games that aren't awful?

With the caveat that I don't know if they are available on Android....

Knight Defense is a fun cross between tower defense and chess.
Infinity Blade 2 is fun (I haven't played 1&3).
Jetpack Joyride is entertaining.
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Old January 7 2014, 06:55 PM   #17
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Re: Tablet games that aren't awful?

I work at an online game company and 99.9% of the games on mobile (including tablets) suck. They are just bad games. That said, mobile developers are limited because of the fact that there is no option to have a physical controller for your average player... you have to make games (for the average player) that users must use their finger/tablet pen for. It sounds like it wouldn't be that big of a deal, but it is. I have an iPad, but to be honest...I only use it to watch Netflix and YouTube. For games, I use my console systems or do PC games.

So even if you do have an AMAZING game, you are limited to the fact that the user must user their finger/pen and not a controller.

Then after that, you have the fact that nearly anyone and their mother can upload games to the android app store (iOs is more strict). Most games you find are rip-offs, fads, and bad replicas of games that have been made already.

You CAN find decent games. Search for games you know you already like or, you mentioned you like tower defense, maybe go online and google "best tower defense games for tablets" etc.

Since I play most of my games on PC or console, I don't have much advice of which particular games, but I do know the industry and it is SATURATED with bad games. It takes much less money and man-power to make a mobile/tablet game than it does to make a console game. That is one of the reasons why there are SO MANY of them and why most of them suck.
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Old January 7 2014, 08:34 PM   #18
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Re: Tablet games that aren't awful?

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you have to make games (for the average player) that users must use their finger/tablet pen for.
See, this sounds like it would be the perfect avenue for adventure games, so I'm surprised that developers haven't gone in that direction yet. The two would compliment each other so nicely and allow for a minimalistic interface.


Oh, that reminds me to ask you,Cutter, which size did get? 7", 8", or "10? I have the 7".
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Old January 7 2014, 09:46 PM   #19
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Re: Tablet games that aren't awful?

Exactly. There are plenty of point and click style games that would work just fine on tablets. I'm actually a pc gamer almost exclusively. I just want a few good tablet games as time killers on the bus and for an upcoming road trip that are more than just "tap the shiny icons".

I honestly get the impression that most "game designers" are more interested in designing micro transations money generators that they are providing an actual good game.
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Old January 7 2014, 10:02 PM   #20
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Re: Tablet games that aren't awful?

A few that I've enjoyed:

Waking Mars - exploration and puzzle based platformer, with an astronaut encountering bizarre ecosystems in a martian cave system

QuestLord - retro-styled RPG

Spider: Secret of Bryce Manor - you're an actual spider, chasing down various bugs that require different tactics

Might want to keep an eye on the Humble Bundle site, they sometimes have some good Android bundles.

if you want old adventures, install ScummVM and you can play old Lucasarts and Sierra games (have to supply them yourself, but there are a bunch on steam and gog these days)

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Old January 7 2014, 10:11 PM   #21
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Re: Tablet games that aren't awful?

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you have to make games (for the average player) that users must use their finger/tablet pen for.
See, this sounds like it would be the perfect avenue for adventure games, so I'm surprised that developers haven't gone in that direction yet. The two would compliment each other so nicely and allow for a minimalistic interface.
Yes, but that would require developers to put effort into their mobile releases. Mobile is the dumping ground for developers to publish their crappy freemium games in an attempt to make money with zero effort.
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Old January 7 2014, 10:18 PM   #22
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Re: Tablet games that aren't awful?

>>Spider: Secret of Bryce Manor/Waking Mars Hmmm, I'm going to check these out.

Some interesting looking items here. I have a weakness for Japanese games.

http://playboard.me/android/apps/com...droidandme.com
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Old January 8 2014, 01:53 AM   #23
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Re: Tablet games that aren't awful?

Kelthaz wrote: View Post
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you have to make games (for the average player) that users must use their finger/tablet pen for.
See, this sounds like it would be the perfect avenue for adventure games, so I'm surprised that developers haven't gone in that direction yet. The two would compliment each other so nicely and allow for a minimalistic interface.
Yes, but that would require developers to put effort into their mobile releases. Mobile is the dumping ground for developers to publish their crappy freemium games in an attempt to make money with zero effort.

Even so, it rather seems to be a waste of a perfectly good opportunity and not to mention, the medium itself. There's potential just sitting there. With hidden-object games, they're already halfway there. I'm sure a developer would be able to figure out how to make it viable, by say, bringing episodic gaming to the tablet. Or even porting over some classics, which wouldn't be too hard given that there are emulators that would make it easy to do so.
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Old January 8 2014, 04:12 AM   #24
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Re: Tablet games that aren't awful?

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Exactly. There are plenty of point and click style games that would work just fine on tablets. I'm actually a pc gamer almost exclusively. I just want a few good tablet games as time killers on the bus and for an upcoming road trip that are more than just "tap the shiny icons".

I honestly get the impression that most "game designers" are more interested in designing micro transations money generators that they are providing an actual good game.
I have experience there since I work as a game designer currently for an MMO PC game for children.

The thing is...game designers don't want popups in your face constantly asking you to pay money with a bunch of in-game currency. They usually want to make a good game first and foremost. The issue is, most of the time the company they work for or the company investing in or publishing the game requires game designers to add that in because when you get to the bottom line, the companies have to make money and support their workers.

It is especially tricky with the game I work for because we make games for kids and you have to be careful.

Just from my own experience, most game designers working for a company are forced to put monetization tactics in or else the game will not get made.

That said though, mobile literally is the dumping ground of horribly made games by companies and people looking to get rich quick and be the next fad.

Luckily I am working for an MMO and it's more stable than mobile. I don't even bother much with mobile anymore. It's just too difficult to muddle through all the trash to find one decent thing.

There are a lot of free puzzle games though if you're just looking for an on the bus time killer. It's hard to screw up a basic puzzle game.
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Old January 8 2014, 08:29 PM   #25
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Just found a rather good looking game called Adventure Town. Not too bad as far as tablet games go.
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Old January 9 2014, 10:20 AM   #26
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I have experience there since I work as a game designer currently for an MMO PC game for children.

The thing is...game designers don't want popups in your face constantly asking you to pay money with a bunch of in-game currency. They usually want to make a good game first and foremost. The issue is, most of the time the company they work for or the company investing in or publishing the game requires game designers to add that in because when you get to the bottom line, the companies have to make money and support their workers.

It is especially tricky with the game I work for because we make games for kids and you have to be careful.

Just from my own experience, most game designers working for a company are forced to put monetization tactics in or else the game will not get made.

That said though, mobile literally is the dumping ground of horribly made games by companies and people looking to get rich quick and be the next fad.

Luckily I am working for an MMO and it's more stable than mobile. I don't even bother much with mobile anymore. It's just too difficult to muddle through all the trash to find one decent thing.

There are a lot of free puzzle games though if you're just looking for an on the bus time killer. It's hard to screw up a basic puzzle game.

Of course. I've no beef with the programmers and designers. Its the suits and marketting weasels you mention that I have the problem with.

So far I'm still enjoying Plague Inc. Its basically a strategy/puzzle game.
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Re: Tablet games that aren't awful?

Here are some tablet games that don't suck:

Superbrothers: Sword & Sworcery EP -- THIS GAME IS AWESOME, GET IT!
Anomaly -- Pretty good spin on the tower defense genre.
Canabalt -- Fun, simple, fast action. You jump a lot. That is all you do.
Spirits -- A fun, Lemmings-style game.
Star Command -- Space strategy game. Haven't played it a lot but what I've played so far is pretty fun.
Eufloria -- Everyone raves about this game. Kind of a weird RTS game.
World of Goo -- This is also a great game!
Time Surfer -- Pretty fun, not a complicated game but nevertheless entertaining.
Zen Bound -- A curiously relaxing game where you paint wooden figures by tying ropes around them. I like it a lot.
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Old January 9 2014, 04:04 PM   #28
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Spirits -- A fun, Lemmings-style game.
Speaking of Lemmings, the game Cavemen on iOS *is* Lemmings, slightly re-skinned for legal reasons.
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Old January 9 2014, 04:10 PM   #29
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Re: Tablet games that aren't awful?

The company I work for had previously dabbled in mobile and made about 10 games, but they are for little kids...and they all suck anyway.

I might go on my iPad tonight to check out some games. I'll let you know if I find any that I enjoy.
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Old January 9 2014, 04:37 PM   #30
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Speaking of Lemmings, I don't know why the original game hasn't been ported into a mobile game. Seems like a touch screen device would be perfect for it.
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