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Old January 6 2014, 09:31 PM   #676
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Re: Gal Gadot cast as Wonder Woman In ‘Batman Vs. Superman’

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Also, I don't bitch about everything, far from it.
post proof or retract. I think you'll find the majority of the people on this forum know you for one thing.
WORD.
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GAWD!

Well, if by not bitching you can include just talking, both positive and negatives, about watching stuff, I spent months (and got to 65 pages in the topic) of talking about watching Babylon 5 and Farscape. It wasn't all positive, but it was more about talking about the tv shows as I went, and not about "bitiching". I was just relaying my experiences, most of which were positive and the negatives were mostly episode/story specific, and more specific critisism than "bitching". I got flack for some opinions, mostly about Farscape, but I'd still say it never reaching the point of bitching, just talking about some negatives. Same with my much shorter thread in the doctor who section about watching the post 2005 stuff. I'm also usually positive when its not a thread involving JJ abrams, Christopher Nolan or David S. goyer's work (or Netflix, but even I think, in retrospect, that I was being an ass with that whole argument in the Marvel netflix show thread).

I've also posted a lot of posts that weren't bitching just around trekbbs in general. I'll concede that, in this general Sci Fi and Fantasy section for the forum, I have ended up doing a lot of arguing, and I do get so caught up in responding to people responding to me that I probably keep arguing past where I should just stop, cool down and leave the thread. I totally admit I can be an ass, am easily engaged in arguments, and even regret some things I post in the heat of the moment.

This WW thing has gone too far. What gets me with this topic is that her supporters seem to just ignore the people who don't like her, to the point of just not wanting any discussion about whether of not she's good for the role. So I try to express the other point of view, then just get stuck in a cycle of arguing it. I won't agree with her supporters, and they won't agree with me, I get that, but I'm easily baited (even if its unintentional on the other person's part) into just replying and replying when I should just exit the conversation. That's how I get about a lot of topics, which leads to my reputation for bitching, which at this point is fairly well deserved. But, its not that I like to bitch, I just have strong opinions, and get a bit annoyed when it seems like dissenting opinions get dismissed just because its somehow wrong to be critical of something.

In relation to this topic, I'll admit I probably have delevoped a slightly irrational hatred of Gadot just because I've been arguing about her so much. Trying to be subjective and not posting because I'm annoyed or angry, in reality Gadot is probably a better actress than people like Megan Fox, and it is unfair to judge her acting ability just based off my hatred of her type of character from F&F (and I do hate that cliche/achetype). From an acting perspective, she could do a fine job, or she could completely blow it with Christian Bale levels of horrible superhero acting.

I stand by my thinking that Goyer can't write a good female character to save his life, so WW is probably screwed regardless of the actress, and that physically Gadot doesn't (and almost certainly won't/can't) look like WW should look in live action. But those are arguments that I'm just ready to admit won't go away, and its become beyond pointless to try to argue them. We'll never agree, so until some big development comes (like images of her in costume or more details about her role) its best to just stop harping on the differences in opinion and getting carried away with them, which I'll take full responsibility for doing in the last few pages. Also, just so its known, I saw Tyberius's post a few posts back about my opinion, and I had a long reply typed up, but I'm just going to try and leave the argument now. I may respond to stuff, like any responses to this post, but I'm honestly going to try to just leave this argument now. My opinion has been stated (probably way too much) so its about time to be done with it. At least until we get more specific info, which probably won't be for awhile.
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Old January 6 2014, 09:43 PM   #677
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Re: Gal Gadot cast as Wonder Woman In ‘Batman Vs. Superman’

What is the big deal with actually waiting to pass judgement on Gadot? Are you afraid if you wait, you might actually like her?

Seems like you're bound and determined to paint yourself into a corner with little information.
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Old January 6 2014, 10:41 PM   #678
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I thought all four of the major female characters in Man Of Steel were strong well written characters. Faora, Martha. Lois and Lara were all good female characters and were played by good actresses.
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Old January 6 2014, 10:51 PM   #679
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Can you find something in another thread to baselessly bitch about? We're tired of it here.

Or better yet, find something in another thread you actually like instead of bitching about everything?
I just keep responding to people who are responding to me. Also, I don't bitch about everything, far from it. But, I'm not going to choose what I post based off of not wanting to disagree or if disagreement annoys people who don't like people disagreeing with them. God forbid there be differing opinions on the internet
That is quite enough from both of you.
kirk55555, don't you feel this horse is beyond death by now? It's time to move on to another subject.
sojourner, better to let the moderators give out the directions.
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Old January 6 2014, 10:59 PM   #680
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Re: Gal Gadot cast as Wonder Woman In ‘Batman Vs. Superman’

Found some more celebrities air brushed into Wonder Woman.

http://archives-lepost.huffingtonpos...der-woman.html

The oddest thing I'm seeing in that link is that Lynda Carter has (probably momentarily after a lot of tanning at the beach) darker skin than Beyonce.

(They just stuck Beyonce's head on Lynda's body.)

I saw Sophia Bush on Myth Buster's last night dressed up as Princess Leia for their Star Wars Special, and I had never noticed the shiny PVC boots on underneath that I'm assuming authentic costume, but as Sophia was swinging across a 30 foot divide, testing the movie, I'm trying and failing to find an unobstructed view to see how far up her thigh they went.

Wonder Woman is a thousand times more about her Boots than Leia could ever be.

We shouldn't be arguing over the weight of Gal's shoulders and biceps, we should be arguing over her shoe size.
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Old January 6 2014, 11:33 PM   #681
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[...]and since she's not a Kryptonian [...]
Well.... http://badassdigest.com/2014/01/06/w...n-vs-superman/
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Old January 7 2014, 12:12 AM   #682
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Re: Gal Gadot cast as Wonder Woman In ‘Batman Vs. Superman’

Batman on Film (who I can't seem to link to right now) is reporting that the WW role in MoS2 will be smallish...

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Jett suggests her role is “on par with Scarlett Johansson’s first appearance as Black Widow in Iron Man 2,” with set-up potential for a future solo film.
Details at Spinoff On-line...
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Old January 7 2014, 12:40 AM   #683
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I'm ok with that, actually. While Black Widow didn't steal the show or anything, she got a fair amount of stuff to do in Iron Man 2, if that's any indications of WW's role in this movie, then that's good enough for me.
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Old January 7 2014, 01:44 AM   #684
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Yeah it sounds like Batman might have a slightly smaller role than we imagined as well, and that this will be much more of a MOS sequel after all.

Really hoping that's true.

Here's the BOF link: http://www.batman-on-film.com/BOF-Mailbag_1-1-14.html
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Old January 7 2014, 02:21 AM   #685
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Re: Gal Gadot cast as Wonder Woman In ‘Batman Vs. Superman’

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I know she was in the military for two years
Which for an Israeli is not exactly noteworthy, given that such military service is compulsory.
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Old January 7 2014, 02:48 AM   #686
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Turtletrekker wrote: View Post
Batman on Film (who I can't seem to link to right now) is reporting that the WW role in MoS2 will be smallish...

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Jett suggests her role is “on par with Scarlett Johansson’s first appearance as Black Widow in Iron Man 2,” with set-up potential for a future solo film.
Details at Spinoff On-line...
Pretty much what i expected given that the movie features DC's two heavy hitters who will take center stage.

Still very curious to see Gadot in action.. i liked her very much in the FF movies she's been in because she is very charming (including her accent).

I am really looking forward to this movie also to see Affleck play Batman (i'm actually a small minority who liked Daredevil ).
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Old January 8 2014, 02:48 AM   #687
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Re: Gal Gadot cast as Wonder Woman In ‘Batman Vs. Superman’

Not real surprised, but still happy to hear that Bats and WW will just be supporting roles.
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Old January 9 2014, 05:21 AM   #688
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Idk why but this makes me happy. She is so bubbly. She wants to be a go get'em action star. She going to totally own the role as WW.

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Old January 9 2014, 05:39 AM   #689
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^ Yep. I think she is going to be awesome.
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Old January 9 2014, 01:50 PM   #690
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Think that press interview gives a good idea why they cast her for personality/character as well as looks.
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