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Old January 1 2014, 06:59 PM   #76
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A fine episode!

There was at least one shot in there where the CGI was just awful and didn't fit with the rest of the nicely detailed work in the show (perhaps it was a last minute patch job? I know there were some issues on the tech side of things).

Outside of that my only real complaint continues to be the audio, for the outdoor scenes on the audio work seemed well done, but everything on the ship just didn't sound good, too often I could hear the set creek or the sound of the dialog just wasn't that crisp. I hope the same can't be said for the next episode, and I will reserve judgement until I hear because I am hoping the sneak peek we got was all unfinished scenes without any mixing.
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Old January 1 2014, 08:16 PM   #77
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I found the editing and general pacing of the show to be excellent, as was James' Kirk, a role I truly hope Cawley will reconsider walking away from.
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Old January 1 2014, 11:10 PM   #78
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Yet another great installment, though I couldn't help to constantly look for Doug Drexler's face somewhere instead of Pony Horton because their voices always remind me of the other.
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Old January 1 2014, 11:44 PM   #79
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I've found RCAM's statements reflect my own. KITUMBA is nicely done, and congrats to all involved. I thought it a bit rushed, though, and overly complicated. You could almost tell it was a two-parter compressed into one hour.

My minor quibble: the transporter room entrance has a corridor to the left of it and that doesn't match up with the interior (once inside, the transporter platform is to the left).

But all in all, a very enjoyable episode. I'm going to miss James Cawley in the role of Kirk.
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Old January 2 2014, 12:54 AM   #80
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I've found RCAM's statements reflect my own. KITUMBA is nicely done, and congrats to all involved. I thought it a bit rushed, though, and overly complicated. You could almost tell it was a two-parter compressed into one hour.

My minor quibble: the transporter room entrance has a corridor to the left of it and that doesn't match up with the interior (once inside, the transporter platform is to the left).

But all in all, a very enjoyable episode. I'm going to miss James Cawley in the role of Kirk.
Yes. It was a fine line to walk in maintaining the fidelity to John Meredyth Lucas' original "Kitumba" writer's draft scripts for a two-parter episode, while trying to incorporate 30 years of accumulated Klingon lore and distilling the story down to a single episode. Patty Wright (who did the teleplay) and the rest of the Producers felt that a two-parter might indeed have been less rushed and complicated, but the original script(s) actually seemed to be repetitive and draggy. I think we struck an acceptable balance given our competing priorities.

Nevertheless, your input is not lost on us, and it's important. We value and thank all of you for all your input.
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Old January 2 2014, 02:26 AM   #81
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Re: Star Trek: Phase II - "Kitumba" Officially Released!

Good job, solid episode!
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Old January 2 2014, 03:18 AM   #82
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Great episode. Am really going to miss James Cawley as Kirk. Hoping he reprises it some day.
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Old January 2 2014, 04:46 AM   #83
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Re: Star Trek: Phase II - "Kitumba" Officially Released!

< I don't know where my previous post went, so I'll retype it as best as I can remember. >

Firstly, to everyone in this project: There must be so much effort that gets poured into these episodes, and all this work is done and delivered to all of us for free, in the hopes of sharing in the fun and enjoyment of a series we all love so much. Thank you very much for all of your hard work. It does not go unnoticed.

That said, I wanted to list a few things I really liked, and a couple things I didn't like so much. This does not take away from the work involved, and I'm no professional critic. These comments are just the opinions of a long time viewer, and should be taken as such.


* The Enterprise! Oh how sweet it is, to see such a beautiful ship appear in high definition on my TV screen! She was the real star of the show, and she's never been so gorgeous!
* The acting has improved significantly. While there were a few cringey moments for me, the vast bulk of the episode was well acted.
* The dialogue was snappy. Good dialogue should validate the story, transition scenes smoothly, and progress character and plot arcs. In this, the dialogue succeeded.
* Pacing was very good. The episode didn't feel slow and plodding, neither did it feel rushed or confusing. The story moved along at a solid pace.
* The visual effects in this episode are the best I've seen throughout the whole series. The CGI was non-intrusive, and I didn't see much in the way of flashy special effects which served no purpose. Also, K-7 looked great!
* The set design was great! Everything from the bridge of the Enterprise, to the bar on Qo'nos was well done. The lighting set the tone well, and it did feel like I was seeing a different world. The only minor nit I have is that I saw the Klingon symbols everywhere. Now, on flags and large edifices it makes sense, but I saw some on door posts, walls, anywhere where it seemed there was a blank spot to be covered. So they were just a touch too prolific for my taste, but that's such a minor quibble.

A few acting mentions:

James Cawley turned in his best performance as Kirk here. There were times when James would speak or act, where it felt like Bill Shatner possessed him. It was very well done, so kudos to him for a great job, and I'll miss him as the Captain.

John Carrigan played Captain Kargh to the hilt, and I loved it. He is so good at making me think someone ripped a TOS character out of celluloid and dropped him into this film. He's delightfully hammy and villainous, all at the same time, and I have so much fun watching him work.


On a side note, I could have sworn one of the Klingons in the bar on Qo'nos sounded like Kruge. I also would swear on a stack of tribbles that I saw General Korrd as well, though I don't think it was in the bar.
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Old January 2 2014, 05:01 AM   #84
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Both Kruge and Korrd were in the bar!
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Old January 2 2014, 05:05 AM   #85
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To everyone accusing each other of taking the low road, may I respectfully suggest you try taking the high road and set an example. If people are being rude and unfair they look even more so when you don't join them rasslin' in the mud.
I agree with this. It just amazes me at some of the behavior present between trek fans and productions. Being pretty new in making my own-I've heard so many things and again it just amazes me. Call me old fashioned but I would have thought that being a fan meant acceptance and a general respect for people. Treks basic philosophy seems to be totally ignored by many fans and its really disheartens me. It would be my wish that we all worked together to further the franchise instead of tearing each other down. I'm for ALL fans productions. More power to them and I'll do whatever I can to support them. Now to the title of this thread, Kitumba was a great example of fan filmmaking as expected by the fine folks at Phase 2. Cawley has turned in another winner and once again raised the bar. Overall an excellent job.
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Old January 2 2014, 05:58 AM   #86
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Both Kruge and Korrd were in the bar!
Ha HA! My observation skills win again!
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Old January 2 2014, 06:31 AM   #87
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Re: Star Trek: Phase II - "Kitumba" Officially Released!

I dug it. I've been wanting to see this story on the screen for ages and you guys didn't let me down!
Kudos!

And for what it's worth, I would much rather have a rushed story than a plodding, padded story.

There are nits that could be picked, but the only thing that really bugged me was the end credits. I know you guys have a lot of names to get through... but could you slow those things down a bit? You're going to give someone a seizure.
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Old January 2 2014, 04:19 PM   #88
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I have not had the opportunity to watch the entire video yet, but I would like to congratulate the Phase II team on putting out their latest effort, "Kitumba." No film project is ever easy and getting to release - whether via as storied or troubled a process as "Kitumba" faced or not - is a herculean task.

I did skim through the video and noted with some irony and disappointment that while Vic Mignogna is credited as the director of the episode, said title is buried deep within the end titles of the film, on at least third or fourth title card (following Gerard and Probert's credits as well as the listing of the entire cast) the series of which (as mentioned by Kelso) do seem to whiz by rather quickly. I'd have much preferred that the production team not make such a big fuss over Vic and his credit like this, but I applaud Phase II for at least giving said credit where it was due.

I will comment further after I've had a chance to watch the episode. For now, congrats to the team!
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Old January 2 2014, 05:02 PM   #89
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With all the mentions of the James Cawley/Brian Gross Kirk transition recently, I got to wondering: Will even the Cawley narration in the opening theme section be overhauled with a new Brian Gross voice track in the upcoming ''Holiest Thing''?

I'll understand if it does, but it would be a nice tribute to Mr. Cawley if the current version remained...
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Old January 2 2014, 05:47 PM   #90
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I did skim through the video and noted with some irony and disappointment that while Vic Mignogna is credited as the director of the episode, said title is buried deep within the end titles of the film, on at least third or fourth title card (following Gerard and Probert's credits as well as the listing of the entire cast) the series of which (as mentioned by Kelso) do seem to whiz by rather quickly. I'd have much preferred that the production team not make such a big fuss over Vic and his credit like this, but I applaud Phase II for at least giving said credit where it was due.
I actually found this rather childish. Just take the high road, put the credit at the beginning of the episode an be done with it. I've worked on quite a few film productions myself, and there's always going to be people with hurt feelings, but there's really no need to act in this kind of manner.

Overall, pretty good episode which is hampered by some very uneven acting from the guest stars, some poor audio (a problem which has plagued the production for years), and a script which suffers from a case of "fanserviceitis." But over all a pretty solid effort, and probably the best looking of the series so far.

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