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Old December 27 2013, 07:03 PM   #31
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According to the Star Trek video game Starship Creator, Taurik and Vorik are twins.

Taurik got the better wig, though...
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Old December 28 2013, 10:01 AM   #32
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And David Mack did write those biographies, didn't he? (http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/David_Mack)
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Old December 29 2013, 06:27 PM   #33
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...However, the current novels have Taurik on the Ent-E and Vorik on Voyager simultaneously...
Wasn't Vorik reassigned to one of the other Full Circle ships? I think it was one of the ones that got destroyed in the latest novel, but I think he survived.

Of course, that is kind of nitpicky of me. Vorik is "with" Voyager either way, whether he's on the ship or not. He's with the FC fleet in the DQ.
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Old December 29 2013, 11:43 PM   #34
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Of other current Ent-E personnel original to the books, assistant CMO Dr. Tropp and transporter chief T'Bonz debuted in A Time to Sow by Dayton Ward & Kevin Dilmore. I think Glinn Dygan was created by Una McCormack for Brinkmanship, and Aneta Šmrhová was created by Dave for Cold Equations.
Dygan was established in DRGIII's Plagues of Night, though he doesn't do too much there. Given the amount of development he is given in Brinkmanship, it wouldn't surprise me if DRGIII and Una McCormack shared notes as he was writing PoN, nor would it surprise me if his character's genesis ultimately did rest with Una.

But that's speculation on my part. You are in a better position to know than I, Christopher. In any case, Dygan was first established in Plagues of Night, released in May 2012, but was significantly developed in Brinkmanship, released that September.

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Aneta Šmrhová was created by Dave for Cold Equations.
The earliest appearance by Šmrhová I can think of is Destiny, actually. Although could she have been in A Time to Kill and Heal too? I really liked David's recurring security and operations people that seemed to begin then and carry into Destiny (Alas for that runabout crew that got massacred in the 3rd Cold Equations book seemed to include several...)
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Šmrhová is definitely in Destiny. Memory Beta doesn't list her appearing any earlier, and I don't recall her in the A Time To... books that Mack wrote. (Which makes sense– she's a nice foil to Choudhury, but would not, I think have been that interesting alongside Vale.)
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Old December 30 2013, 03:10 AM   #35
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Just wondering if anyone is having "issues" with the current make-up of the Enterprise E staff.
Personally, I prefer to just not get used to them at all. Since they were never in TV or film, they could all get killed at any point. If you never get fully invested in them, there's no mourning when they're gone.

and I really could care less.
Since everybody loves nitpicking on this site, either say "I *COULDN'T* care less" or don't even bother saying it. Saying you "could" care less means you still care for them in some small amount and essentially negates whatever you've been saying before. If you're going to use a cliche, do us all a favor and use it properly.
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Old December 30 2013, 04:21 PM   #36
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There have just been SO. MANY. CHARACTERS. since Death in Winter. I thought Beyer's Voyagers characters were integrated seamlessly into the crew, but there hasn't been a clear and consistent voice in the TNG novels to bring many of these characters to life lately. It seems like every time we start to get to know a character, they're killed off.

Miranda Kadohata was interesting. T'Lana was interesting. Leybenzon was interesting. I was finally starting to like Choudhury too. Why did they have to go and do that to Worf again?

Šmrhová and Elfiki are just names.
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Old December 30 2013, 04:36 PM   #37
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There have just been SO. MANY. CHARACTERS. since Death in Winter. I thought Beyer's Voyagers characters were integrated seamlessly into the crew, but there hasn't been a clear and consistent voice in the TNG novels to bring many of these characters to life lately.....
Totally agree. The characters in Beyer's Voyager have definitely been better realized due to the "one author" situation. TNG is like TOS wherein it seems Pocket won't let just one writer tackle the series. This makes sense as they are, what i assume, the most popular series, and plan on having more than one release per year. If one author was writing the TNG books, they would be slower to come out. A trilogy like Mr. Mack's from 2012 are rare..
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Old December 30 2013, 04:39 PM   #38
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^But if every series had only one writer, then there'd only be a half-dozen or so people writing Trek novels on a regular basis, depending on how many book-original series there were. So some of the series should be open to multiple writers.
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Old December 30 2013, 06:06 PM   #39
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^But if every series had only one writer, then there'd only be a half-dozen or so people writing Trek novels on a regular basis, depending on how many book-original series there were.
Not necessarily a bad thing in the individual reader's perspective, assuming they're allowed to pick the half-dozen.
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Old December 30 2013, 06:32 PM   #40
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I was finally starting to like Choudhury too. Why did they have to go and do that to Worf again?

Šmrhová and Elfiki are just names.
I very much liked Choudhury from the start. Her approach to her job as Security Chief was refreshing, and far more in keeping with what I'd imagine Starfleet philosophies to favour (more so pre-Dominion War, of course). As a character I found her engaging. Šmrhová immediately struck me in Cold Equations as taking the opposite approach, which I'm less comfortable with (not a judgement, just an observation). I know she was introduced in Destiny, but I don't remember much about her role there, whereas in Silent Weapons the contrast with Choudhury's approach was obvious. Šmrhová is sort of the anti-Choudhury in my eyes, at least at the moment, which may be selling the character short but, as I say, I really liked Choudhury.

I will note that her appearance in The Crimson Shadow helped; maybe I'm coming to get a feel for her on her own merits now, if that makes sense.
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Old December 30 2013, 07:06 PM   #41
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^But if every series had only one writer, then there'd only be a half-dozen or so people writing Trek novels on a regular basis, depending on how many book-original series there were.
I had a feeling that there aren't much more than half a dozen regulars either way, so I've gone through the schedules from 2011 to 2014 (as far as we know if ATM), and if I haven't miscounted there are eight authors/writing duos who have three or more novels during that time frame (I would say less than that shouldn't count as regular). So I guess there are a couple more "regulars" than I thought.

9 novels: David Mack
7 novels: Dayton Ward (3 with Kevin Dilmore)
6 novels: David R. George III
4 novels: Christopher L. Bennett
3 novels: Michael A. Martin, Kirsten Beyer, Greg Cox, Una McCormack

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2 novels: James Swallow, Jeff Mariotte
1 novel: David McIntee, Peter David (published twice), Marco Palmieri, Steve Mollmann & Michael Schuster, Tony Daniel, Alan Dean Foster, William Leisner, Jeffrey Lang



By the way, that KRAD isn't even on this list with a single novel is a fucking shame.
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Old December 30 2013, 09:24 PM   #42
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^But if every series had only one writer, then there'd only be a half-dozen or so people writing Trek novels on a regular basis, depending on how many book-original series there were. So some of the series should be open to multiple writers.
Totally. I realize this. I wasn't saying that I wanted only one writer per series, I was just saying that one writer would probably make it feel all the more cohesive in terms of characterization. Stuff like the differences of the personalities of the senior E-E staff in Before Dishonor / Q&A for example. That's all. If new writers weren't let into the club house, then we wouldn't get any new voices or perspectives.

Maybe it would be better if TNG featured more trilogies or duologies by the same writer...at least for some of these characters. I'd love to see Una give us more Dygan for example.

Hopefully yourself and Kirsten aren't interupted in your series for the forseeable future. So far i like how they are going
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Old December 30 2013, 09:32 PM   #43
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Miranda Kadohata was interesting.
Agreed. I would really like to see her return to the fold at some point.

Leybenzon was interesting.
I thought Leybenzon had a fantastic set-up in his first novel, and he sounded like he was going to be a really interesting, nuanced character. Ever since then, he was simply portrayed as a less-than-intelligent brawler type who shot first and thought later, if at all... to the point where they had to kill him off with a bad case of the stupids. To me, this was the single biggest waste of potential in the initial batch of new characters.

Šmrhová and Elfiki are just names.
I don't know, Šmrhová has seemed to had a fair bit of development through the few novels that feature her, so she does seem like a bit more than just a name to me. Elfiki, though, I will agree with. Even after a novel that featured her fairly extensively (Watching the Clock?), I don't feel that I really know her all that well. But then, the same is true of, say, Patel in VOY.

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By the way, that KRAD isn't even on this list with a single novel is a fucking shame.
I'm not a huge fan of "like" or "+1" or "QFT" posts, but I'm going to have to make an exception in this case!
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Old December 30 2013, 09:37 PM   #44
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...By the way, that KRAD isn't even on this list with a single novel is a fucking shame.
Agreed! I've been re-reading a lot of his trek books lately and wish there were more. Total fucking shame. Hopefully we get our wish down the line
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By the way, that KRAD isn't even on this list with a single novel is a fucking shame.
I keep hoping that the fact that he was hired to write Klingon Art of War might mean that he is or will be back writing Trek books.
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