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Old December 27 2013, 11:15 PM   #106
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Re: Downton Abbey ITV1 22nd September 9pm

Yeah but Mary is good looking and Edith isn't.
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Old December 28 2013, 12:54 AM   #107
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At one point there was a caption saying it was 1923. And it didn't look like Christmas time. I think ball season is probably in spring or summer. So, the possibility is there, especially since Edith will travel to the continent, anyway, and might not be able to resist going for a look herself.
True, I don't suppose a lot of folks would be crazy about paddling around a beach in late December would be a fun outing. I was assuming Christmas because of the show being on at Christmas. Assumptions.
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Old December 28 2013, 01:34 AM   #108
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Yeah but Mary is good looking and Edith isn't.
Some men and women I know think Edith is pretty.
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Old December 28 2013, 01:36 AM   #109
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Yeah but Mary is good looking and Edith isn't.
Some men and women I know think Edith is pretty.
Edith is lovely. While the actress who plays Mary is quite pretty, Mary gets uglier with every episode.
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Old December 29 2013, 11:10 PM   #110
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Yeah but Mary is good looking and Edith isn't.
Oh, I disagree. Edith is far more attractive to me than Mary.
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Old December 29 2013, 11:22 PM   #111
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Listen here you colonial and foreign types, it's series 4 - what-ho.

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Old February 5 2014, 12:00 AM   #112
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I just watched the series so far and I have some questions.

During winter scenes the Granthams almost invariably have fires in the fireplaces, but never once does any servant carry any firewood down the halls, chop wood, or stack wood. Are British fireplaces somehow loaded automatically from the rear, or perhaps is the manor equipped with fake natural-gas fireplaces?

Also, nobody ever seems to clean up the dishes after a meal, or wash dishes. All the staff does is cook and serve. Are the clean-up duties outsourced to low-bid Indian contractors?

Finally, where do they get the petrol for their cars? There doesn't seem to be any filling stations anywhere.
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Old February 5 2014, 12:34 AM   #113
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Re: Downton Abbey ITV1 22nd September 9pm

The used plates (along with surplus poor people) are burned both in the fireplaces and to power the cars...
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Old February 5 2014, 12:51 AM   #114
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Old February 5 2014, 02:24 AM   #115
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Yeah but Mary is good looking and Edith isn't.
Some men and women I know think Edith is pretty.
Edith is lovely. While the actress who plays Mary is quite pretty, Mary gets uglier with every episode.
I think Edith is very attractive and has grown as a person. I can't imagine the Edith of series 4 sending the letter that she did in series 1.

Mary is more conventionally pretty and a less appealing person. But I don't see her personality as getting progressively uglier. I think she was at her worst before she finally decided to marry Matthew; he was a good influence on her. And although she's lost (at least temporarily) much of the softness he inspired, I don't think she's back to where she started. With one exception: when she was considering reporting Bates. That was both ugly and bizarre.

The first few episodes of this series were pretty depressing. So much sadness. If I'd been watching on scheduled TV, I might've given up. But I was binge-watching, so things improved quickly, and I ended up really enjoying.
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Old February 5 2014, 02:34 AM   #116
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Edith vs Mary? Eff that. The sister that caught "Shamrock Fever" or bust.
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Old February 5 2014, 06:17 AM   #117
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She ran off an married her chauffeur. Obviously she lacked something in the breeding department. I wouldn't be surprised if her real father was some immigrant gardener.
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Old February 5 2014, 06:40 AM   #118
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I dunno you been watching the show? That chauffeur seems way more competent at running Downton than the dad from Alias.
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Old February 5 2014, 03:52 PM   #119
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During winter scenes the Granthams almost invariably have fires in the fireplaces, but never once does any servant carry any firewood down the halls, chop wood, or stack wood. Are British fireplaces somehow loaded automatically from the rear, or perhaps is the manor equipped with fake natural-gas fireplaces?
Wasn't Daisy shown making a fire early on? Or was she hauling ashes? Anyway, it was preferred for servants to be somewhat invisible; all the work was supposed to be done when The Family wasn't around. Some houses even had hidey-holes placed throughout the halls for servants to duck into if their superiors approached.

Finally, where do they get the petrol for their cars? There doesn't seem to be any filling stations anywhere.
My guess is the estate had its own fueling tank(s), filled by a supplier, but I don't know.
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Old February 5 2014, 03:57 PM   #120
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During winter scenes the Granthams almost invariably have fires in the fireplaces, but never once does any servant carry any firewood down the halls, chop wood, or stack wood. Are British fireplaces somehow loaded automatically from the rear, or perhaps is the manor equipped with fake natural-gas fireplaces?
Wasn't Daisy shown making a fire early on?

I think it was one of the first scenes in the very first episode. It was early morning and Daisy was admonished because it was getting late and she might be seen by a member of the family.
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