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Old December 28 2013, 02:36 AM   #31
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Re: Romance between Kirk and Carol?

Carol would be crazy, and immoral, to impregnate herself with Kirk's DNA without his knowledge or consent.
If anybody has to get pregnant, I'd rather it be Uhura than Carol. I guess as long as Carol took her fetus and left that would be ok.
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Old December 28 2013, 02:40 AM   #32
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Re: Romance between Kirk and Carol?

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she thinks she better establish herself around this man, probably because he makes just a little bit weak and that is scary.
I never got that impression from nuCarol. She just seemed that she didn't want anything to do with Kirk, and did not care what he thought of her. Even if this version of Kirk had the hots for Carol, there's absolutely no indication she did, or would ever, return his affections.

And yes, I am aware that quite a few real life (and also fictional) love affairs start off that way. But we can't assume that the Abrams counterparts of Kirk and Carol will end up anywhere near like their original versions will. People only think these versions of Carol and Kirk will get together because their originals did. But why should anyone assume that?
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Old December 28 2013, 02:45 AM   #33
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Re: Romance between Kirk and Carol?

Original Carol seemed to get along just fine without Kirk. She seemed like a dynamic woman at the top of her field, her child raised and off to a good start in life, and she didn't seem to have any interest in resuming her past relationship with Kirk. So it's true to the history of the character that she's not all that interested in a relationship with Kirk.
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Old December 28 2013, 12:25 PM   #34
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People only think these versions of Carol and Kirk will get together because their originals did. But why should anyone assume that?
Because they have chemistry and if even Prime Spock can toss the word destiny around then they certainly have a better chance of getting together than Carol and some random. And yes all that bickering is chemistry.
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Old December 28 2013, 04:41 PM   #35
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If you say so teacake. I didn't feel any chemistry with them at all. I found their interactions genreally unpleasant to creepy.
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Old December 28 2013, 05:19 PM   #36
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Re: Romance between Kirk and Carol?

I also didn't think this version of Kirk and Carol had any chemistry either. Again, people are subconsciously 'thinking' that they do simply because the originals did. Everybody heard the name 'Carol Marcus' and thought OMFG DAVID!!! But just as nobody ever saw Spock/Uhura coming, nobody can know where this is going either.
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Old December 28 2013, 05:27 PM   #37
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Re: Romance between Kirk and Carol?

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If you say so teacake. I didn't feel any chemistry with them at all. I found their interactions genreally unpleasant to creepy.
unpleasant to creepy? Came across as typical movie boy-girl banter to me.
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Old December 28 2013, 11:51 PM   #38
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I also didn't think this version of Kirk and Carol had any chemistry either. Again, people are subconsciously 'thinking' that they do simply because the originals did. Everybody heard the name 'Carol Marcus' and thought OMFG DAVID!!! But just as nobody ever saw Spock/Uhura coming, nobody can know where this is going either.
I am not "subconsciously thinking" I am actually thinking and looking at the character interchange, which as a few people have mentioned is classic movie boy/girl stuff. If Carol had been named Linda Peabody everyone would STILL be making threads about whether they were going to get together because of the typical stuff we saw in XII that points that way.

Also, let's not forget who we are talking about here as far as attraction goes. Captain James. T. Kirk. A force of attraction that only physics could attempt to explain.
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Old December 29 2013, 12:10 AM   #39
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Carol didn't seem to like Kirk much at all in STID so I would assume that a romance is not likely. Although anything is possible.
You are not very good at reading people, are you?

They were written and acted with a very obvious reciprocal interest. Kirk drools at her, and she titillates him. Not very subtle.
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Old December 29 2013, 01:19 AM   #40
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Carol didn't seem to like Kirk much at all in STID so I would assume that a romance is not likely. Although anything is possible.
You are not very good at reading people, are you?
You're just learning this NOW?

I'm just a literalist, I guess. And you're exactly right: I can't read people well. What llttle I can read, I go by what I see at that time. I'm not good at picking up on "subtext" or "clues" or any of that kind of thing.

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Kirk drools at her, and she titillates him. Not very subtle.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure Kirk likes Carol - but I saw no evidence that Carol did, or ever would, return it. I saw a likelihood that Carol would have kicked Kirk in the nards had he not been her commanding officer, but I didn't see any indication that Carol actually liked anything about Kirk.
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Old December 29 2013, 02:53 AM   #41
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Nah, she was flirting with him.
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Old December 29 2013, 03:58 AM   #42
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Re: Romance between Kirk and Carol?

IT IS KIRK. How the frakk could anyone NOT like him?

By like I mean of course swooning and lust.
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Old December 29 2013, 06:34 AM   #43
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Re: Romance between Kirk and Carol?

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IT IS KIRK. How the frakk could anyone NOT like him?

By like I mean of course swooning and lust.
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Old December 29 2013, 08:51 AM   #44
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I am not "subconsciously thinking" I am actually thinking and looking at the character interchange, which as a few people have mentioned is classic movie boy/girl stuff. If Carol had been named Linda Peabody everyone would STILL be making threads about whether they were going to get together because of the typical stuff we saw in XII that points that way.
Linda Peabody left the ship the same time as Nurse Chapel.

And for the same reason, too.
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Old December 29 2013, 10:28 AM   #45
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Re: Romance between Kirk and Carol?

Personally I like to believe that Kirk's spawn is everywhere. AND that a romantic super alien transported Miramanee's baby from her womb right before she was stoned to death for sleeping with the great Kirok and grew it in a tube or whatever and we will see this child grown some day.
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