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Old December 26 2013, 09:10 PM   #16
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Re: Favorite Voyager Villain

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Culluh and Seska. I like the episodes where they are up to something. A beautiful team!
Well Seska is clearly the most competent villain the Voyager crew fought in the early seasons, but Culluh was as dumb as a stump, without Seska Culluh wouldn't have been able to tie his shoes, let alone pose a threat to Voyager. Seska was the only reason the Kazon were threatening at all.

I don't think Voyager had as many good villains as some of the other series did, but Seska is a good choice, though I would disagree with Culluh.
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Old December 26 2013, 09:11 PM   #17
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Arturis

I liked him because it showed that the writers were paying enough attention to realise that Scorpion was where Janeway's character had gone all kinds of wrong and the borg alliance had lead to far more death and destruction than simply using the array to get home ever would have

I also like the fact that Arturis was kinda sad.....not cunning, smug or wicked......just deeply upset at the horrible consequences unleashed upon his word by Janeway

Janeway has a breakdown in the following episode.....coincidence?
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Old December 26 2013, 09:29 PM   #18
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He just killed a few people to save his own life.

Janeway destroyed the universe to get home earlier.
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Old December 26 2013, 09:29 PM   #19
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Seska was the first name to come to mind, although the Vidians were nicely creepy.
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Old December 26 2013, 10:57 PM   #20
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Seska was the first name to come to mind, although the Vidians were nicely creepy.
I have to mention Varathael, Laazia and Naxor from a very good Voyager book I've read. They were really creepy.
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Old December 26 2013, 11:01 PM   #21
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Seska was the first name to come to mind, although the Vidians were nicely creepy.
I have to mention Varathael, Laazia and Naxor from a very good Voyager book I've read. They were really creepy.
Thanks!. Would you believe it took me a moment to recognize those names? That was a long time ago . . . .
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Old December 27 2013, 12:31 AM   #22
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Seska's ultimate demise was so unsatisfying. I really wanted to see her suffer! But, whatever ... just ... just get her story over with. I don't care anymore, what happens!
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Old December 27 2013, 12:40 AM   #23
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There was no reason for her to be a bad guy.

The Federation and Cardassia were allies when Voyager was lost.

If she had approached Tuvok or Janeway near the beginning, even if they continued to keep her identity a secret, Seska would have easily gotten the rank of lieutenant JG or full Lieutenant.
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Old December 27 2013, 03:11 AM   #24
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Re: Favorite Voyager Villain

I would have to go with the Borg Queen and 8472 (although they were pretty much neutralized as villains by the end of "In the Flesh").
Annorax committed a crazy amount of genocide, so he is pretty horrible obviously.

Kashyk was someone who I felt like wasn't really a villain, just a jackass.

The Kazon were the ones I loved to hate only because they were just too stupid.

Seska was manipulative and ruthless, but she had something of a heart under there I think.
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Old December 27 2013, 03:23 AM   #25
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They hung Klink from the Gates and threw rocks at him in the last episode of Hogan's Heroes.
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Old December 27 2013, 04:03 AM   #26
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Arturis

I liked him because it showed that the writers were paying enough attention to realise that Scorpion was where Janeway's character had gone all kinds of wrong and the borg alliance had lead to far more death and destruction than simply using the array to get home ever would have

I also like the fact that Arturis was kinda sad.....not cunning, smug or wicked......just deeply upset at the horrible consequences unleashed upon his word by Janeway

Janeway has a breakdown in the following episode.....coincidence?
Arturis was indeed a sad villain. You cannot really blame him considering his people were assimilated after Species 8472 were defeated by the Borg due to Janeway's help.

Even Janeway felt bad when she realized his motivations for what he did.
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Old December 27 2013, 04:58 AM   #27
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The Clown.
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Old December 27 2013, 05:54 AM   #28
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Seven Of Nine.
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Old December 27 2013, 07:13 AM   #29
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You fell for that?

She was the Borg Queen all along.
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Old December 27 2013, 09:38 PM   #30
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I couldn't stand the Borg Queen. Putting aside the fact that her personality contradicts established Borg personality and pretending for the moment TNG Borg episodes didn't exist...

Judging strictly from things established in Voyager Borg episodes, her weird Dominatrix personality was off-putting and her motivations for her actions were contradictory and didn't make any sense to the point where it seemed like they were just making her generically evil for the present story purposes. Like the whole reason she kidnapped Seven in Dark Frontier didn't make sense and it made even less sense that she tried to bargain with Seven to get her to surrender instead of just sending a few cubes after Voyager and grabbing her. Her entire use as a villain just didn't make any sense and she clearly only existed so Janeway could have repartee with the series' major villain.

It's hard to say my favorite since most villains didn't get more than one episode. I'll go with what's his name from Year of Hell.
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