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Old May 12 2007, 12:47 PM   #16
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Re: Anyone Else Love "Whom Gods Destroy"?

yeah it was at both fun interesting camp that really did make you wonder about some stuff.
and that was a dark moment in trek that they really did blow her up like that.

i wish we had learned more about garth.
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Old May 12 2007, 02:55 PM   #17
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I'd probably put Whom Gods Destroy in my top five, right up there with "This Side of Paradise" and "What Are Little Girls Made Of?" That should give you some indication of my good/bad taste!

I, too, would have liked to have seen more of Garth, especially since he was on the "road to recovery" by episode's end. Maybe there's some fanfic...

Just watched the 1968 film "Madigan", in which our man Ihnat has a decent part. My wife couldn't identify him until she remembered the time I told her how Ihnat "vanishes" into a role and only then did she recognize him. He did the same thing to me in that "Big Valley" episode where Victoria teaches some outlaw to read. Ihnat played an outlaw in the guy's gang.

He also appears in a few "Mission: Impossible" eps, most notably as Stefan Miklos in season three(!) of that show.
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Old May 12 2007, 03:10 PM   #18
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Re: Anyone Else Love "Whom Gods Destroy"?

Steve67 said:
I, too, would have liked to have seen more of Garth, especially since he was on the "road to recovery" by episode's end. Maybe there's some fanfic...
Garth turns out to be unveiled as the mysterious and sinister Captain Zair (anagram of Izar) in Peter David's last few comics for Series I of the DC Comics TOS movie-era line, and the convoluted plot he was a part of is eventually completed in Peter David's TNG novel, "Strike Zone".
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Old May 12 2007, 05:21 PM   #19
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Therin of Andor said:
Steve67 said:
I, too, would have liked to have seen more of Garth, especially since he was on the "road to recovery" by episode's end. Maybe there's some fanfic...
Garth turns out to be unveiled as the mysterious and sinister Captain Zair (anagram of Izar) in Peter David's last few comics for Series I of the DC Comics TOS movie-era line, and the convoluted plot he was a part of is eventually completed in Peter David's TNG novel, "Strike Zone".
I was determined not to learn anything today, but thanks so much for mentioning those comics. I have fond memories of DC's "Mirror, Mirror" sequel and I will check out those others you mentioned.
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Old May 13 2007, 12:34 AM   #20
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Re: Anyone Else Love "Whom Gods Destroy"?

Actually, I'm just realizing that ex-Captain Phil Burroughs was aka "Zair", in Garth's honour(?), but Garth definitely comes into the action a few issues later, seeking vengeance against Kirk.

You're looking for several linked story arcs of Series I - all the Peter David stuff, probably - that features Moron/Bernie, the dwarf albino Klingon.
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Old May 13 2007, 02:01 AM   #21
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Love it?-No. Like it a lot? Sure. Lots of good moments in this one.
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Old May 13 2007, 08:21 AM   #22
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Classic episode.

Garth of Izar is probably one of my favorite guest characters of all Trek.

Without giving any spoilers, is the book based on him, aptly named "Garth of Izar," any good?
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Old May 13 2007, 01:18 PM   #23
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Trek at its campy best. It's as if the Adam West Batman show took us into Arkham. :thumbsup:
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Old May 16 2007, 12:38 AM   #24
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Actually, no. It's a dreadful bit of television flotsam.
Since it was braodcast on purpose, wouldn't it be a dreadful piece of television jetsam?

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Old May 16 2007, 01:34 AM   #25
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^^^
You're thinking of a chapter in Lord of the Rings.

Terrible ep, for any show. Flotsam it is if only because it shows up in syndication.
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Old May 16 2007, 04:14 PM   #26
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Not only is Marta awfully nice to look at, but the great, great line in this one..

Lord Garth!!

... makes me smile every time. Love it.

Always figured Spock to be getting a bit over on Kirk with the fight at the end.
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Old May 16 2007, 08:44 PM   #27
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It does have some great lines, and Martia the insane Orion girl was the best part of the show. Nice dancing eh?

This ep could have been something easily it seems, good actors and meaty dialog. But the production of the ep is noticeably crap. I don't recall who directed this one, but I gotta wonder if there was a lot of drinking on set... something.
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Old May 16 2007, 08:50 PM   #28
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People,

It's not a good ep, but it can be campy fun. My favorite Garth line is when he just gets fed up with Spock's contradictory answers and yells, "REMOVE THIS ANIMAL!"

And oh yes, the lovely Marta, played by Yvonne Craig, who also played the scrumptious and leggy Batgirl! She and Uhura (esp. MU Uhura) were the hottest TOS women of all time!

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Old May 16 2007, 09:12 PM   #29
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Sure it's a good ep. Has kind of a The Prisoner vibe to it.
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Old May 16 2007, 11:21 PM   #30
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Easily one of the best of the third season. It gets some criticism for supposedly having Spock look stupid at the end of the episode, but dramatically could it really have been written any other way? It would also have been a better episode if they had let Garth in Kirk's guise get aboard the ship. What ever happened to the drug that seemed to work at the end of this episode? Dr. Sevrin ("The Way to Eden") and Janice Lester ("Turnabout Intruder") were both pronounced insane in episodes following this one, and no mention is made of using the drug to cure their insanity.
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