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Doctor Who "Bigger on the inside..."

View Poll Results: Grade "The Time Of The Doctor"
Geronimo! 64 30.48%
Fish Fingers and Custard 84 40.00%
Average 36 17.14%
Not Good 21 10.00%
Beans are evil. Bad bad beans! | 5 2.38%
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Old December 25 2013, 10:03 PM   #31
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Funny how Eccleston's regeneration is still the best of new who. Guess it is the simplicity of it that makes it great.
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Old December 25 2013, 10:04 PM   #32
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Plus the quick clip we got of Capaldi gives me no hope that he'll be that good as the doctor
Based on what? just seems to me like you decided soon as he was casted based off that comment.
He just doesn't have the look for a start He doesn't have that Doctorly feel to him. Then again, I could be very wrong. After seeing the End of Time and seeing Smith's first moments, I thought "he's going to become the best ever doctor in no time". How wrong was I. So Capaldi could end up being great. I don't know, I'm just lashing out because I'm angry with the episode.
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Old December 25 2013, 10:04 PM   #33
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I really enjoyed it, as i got TTOI Series 4 DVD for Xmas and watched it all beforehand Capaldi's appearance did have a somewhat surreal edge to it (might have been the wine though).
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Old December 25 2013, 10:05 PM   #34
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What the actual fuck was that?

Was pretty bad with only several entertaining bits. If I had to sum it up in one word, it'd probably be lacklustre. It felt rushed and didn't have much structure. Christ, this makes Asylum of the Daleks look great, and you all know my opinions on that. No villain which I what the episode could have done with, was rushed which is a problem pretty much all of series 7 has suffered with, and the story was just...dull. I was expecting something good on the same tier as the brilliant Day of the Doctor. Plus the regeneration sequence was shit. Sure, I get that he had that giant regeneration before actually changing his appearance, but the second one just didn't work. I didn't like that "flash". Too fast and if they weren't going to do that now normal stand-up regeneration, at least do a more traditional lying down regeneration. But nope, just a quick spin round and a blip to Capaldi. And then we got barley any words from him. I was at least expecting a few more words from him like we did with Smith in The End of Time. The End of Time had its faults but in comparison, it was a master piece. I've gotten The Caves of Androzani and Time & The Rani fir Christmas on DVD. I wouldn't be surprised if T&TR was better than Time of the Doctor. And from what I've heard, it's awful. I was generous and gave this 2 stars. Definitely my least favourite regeneration, probably tied with the War Games and that's low for opposite reasons - it dragged on too much. Then again I was younger when I saw that, if I watched the whole thing again now, I'd probably enjoy it more. Would probably beat Time of the Doctor.

Plus the quick clip we got of Capaldi gives me no hope that he'll be that good as the doctor. I'm beginning to hope he really is a one series wonder.
So you are going to judge Capaldi on that couple of seconds? Sheesh, give the guy a chance before going all negative. Bah humbug.
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Old December 25 2013, 10:06 PM   #35
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Funny how Eccleston's regeneration is still the best of new who. Guess it is the simplicity of it that makes it great.
Although I think End of Time is slightly better, I agree with you when you talk about simplicity. This one was too complicated yet too short. Lets hope Capaldi's regeneration takes inspiration from the better regenerations.

BTW, do you think it's funny that in 2013, we've had two doctors die of old age (Hurt and Smith)?
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Old December 25 2013, 10:08 PM   #36
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If they come through, all hell breaks loose (again) and the time war restarts. The Daleks and the rest of the galaxy wants to stop the Doctor from saying his name cause then they stop the return of Gallifrey.
But the time lords are waiting for his signal, right? For him to say his name? So why not just fly off and leave the crack behind?
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Old December 25 2013, 10:11 PM   #37
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If they come through, all hell breaks loose (again) and the time war restarts. The Daleks and the rest of the galaxy wants to stop the Doctor from saying his name cause then they stop the return of Gallifrey.
But the time lords are waiting for his signal, right? For him to say his name? So why not just fly off and leave the crack behind?
Didn't The Doctor said whatever was trying to come through this crack was because its the weakest point of the breaches across the Universe.
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Old December 25 2013, 10:12 PM   #38
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Funny how Eccleston's regeneration is still the best of new who. Guess it is the simplicity of it that makes it great.
Although I think End of Time is slightly better, I agree with you when you talk about simplicity. This one was too complicated yet too short. Lets hope Capaldi's regeneration takes inspiration from the better regenerations.

BTW, do you think it's funny that in 2013, we've had two doctors die of old age (Hurt and Smith)?
Didn't see your earlier reply, glad you are giving Capaldi a chance. I loved all the actors who have played the Doctor, it's the writing that can be a problem.

True, didn't even think of that, funny how two Doctors died of old age this year.
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Old December 25 2013, 10:12 PM   #39
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If they come through, all hell breaks loose (again) and the time war restarts. The Daleks and the rest of the galaxy wants to stop the Doctor from saying his name cause then they stop the return of Gallifrey.
But the time lords are waiting for his signal, right? For him to say his name? So why not just fly off and leave the crack behind?
Cause no one knew what the signal was till the Doctor showed up and decoded it. All that was known is that the signal caused fear in all the races that heard it. Once the Doctor decoded it, he was there at it, they couldn't leave in case he brought Gallifrey back.
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Old December 25 2013, 10:12 PM   #40
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BTW why is it always boiled down to "At least it's not RTD!" when people don't like Moffat episodes? Why can't people simply dislike an episode without it becoming fanboy dick waving over RTD vs Moffat?
I direct you to my comment...

Oh, I also seriously wonder how much was shot but cut from the episode - It really felt that we getting just parts of scenes a lot of the time, and I *know* they had the Doctor's leg getting petrified by an Angel but we never saw that...
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Old December 25 2013, 10:15 PM   #41
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Also, while I did like this a lot, it definitely felt rushed. Too bad they couldn't give a Smith's last episode a two parter, like they did with Tennant.

Irony of that is Tennat's finale didn't have a bunch of looses ends to tie up and had tow parts, yet Smith's finale only got one episode and had a lot of loose ends to tie up.

Wonder if they expected Smith to stay at least another year.
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Old December 25 2013, 10:16 PM   #42
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I *know* they had the Doctor's leg getting petrified by an Angel but we never saw that...
That was reported in The Sun, doesn't make it true. Whatever cuts were made I wonder would the BBC might of been more behind it for their precious schedule.

Cause people can't wait 5-10 minutes longer for Eastenders
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Old December 25 2013, 10:20 PM   #43
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Cause no one knew what the signal was till the Doctor showed up and decoded it. All that was known is that the signal caused fear in all the races that heard it. Once the Doctor decoded it, he was there at it, they couldn't leave in case he brought Gallifrey back.
I mean why doesn't the doctor fly off? The time lords didn't seem to be coming through without an answer from him, so if he leaves, they stay put.

Unless the Daleks etc were so freaked out they were going to flatten the place anyway, which is possible, but I felt the explanations were rather rushed.
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Also, while I did like this a lot, it definitely felt rushed. Too bad they couldn't give a Smith's last episode a two parter, like they did with Tennant.

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Wonder if they expected Smith to stay at least another year.
I believe so. We know that Moffat and Smith discussed series 8. It's possible that series 8 was supposed to deal with all of the loose ends and the regeneration limit, but when Smith bolted Moffat had to fit them all (and the kitchen sink, too) into the Christmas episode.
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Old December 25 2013, 10:34 PM   #45
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I enjoyed the episode overall but like others I did feel like it was rushed. I don't know why this couldn't have been a two parter! I'm glad they tied up most of Matt Smith's run, hopefully Steven Moffat will go for simpler story arcs with the new doctor. Not that I don't like complicated but his stories have always seemed complicated for the sake of being complicated.

As some people keep bringing up RTD I think his version of sending the companion home was much better.

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