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Old December 24 2013, 01:24 AM   #16
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Oh, I could have sworn she showed up with Choudhury and Chen, my mistake.
Of the three, the only one I created was Chen. Keith created Faur and Kadohata, and Dave Mack created Choudhury and Elfiki, although they first appeared in Greater Than the Sum.

I also created Counselor Hegol, and Rennan Konya originated way back in my Trek debut, SCE: Aftermath.

Of other current Ent-E personnel original to the books, assistant CMO Dr. Tropp and transporter chief T'Bonz debuted in A Time to Sow by Dayton Ward & Kevin Dilmore. I think Glinn Dygan was created by Una McCormack for Brinkmanship, and Aneta Šmrhová was created by Dave for Cold Equations.

(And of course Jean-Luc Picard, Bevery Crusher, Worf, and Geordi La Forge were created by Gene Roddenberry, David Gerrold, D.C. Fontana, and Robert Justman, and Lt. Taurik was created by René Echevarria and Ron Wilkerson & Jean Louise Matthias.)
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Old December 24 2013, 02:07 AM   #17
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Thanks for that. I'm not always good at remembering which character first appeared when, which I just proved with Faur.
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Old December 24 2013, 11:15 AM   #18
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^Whew, that's a relief. It would've been disturbing if my attempt at a believable characterization came off as a mere stereotype.

And you know, it's a shame that the third-largest real-life religion in the world (fourth if you count "nonreligious") is still unfamiliar to an audience that's intimately versed in Bajoran and Klingon religion...
Yeah, this is a shame. But understandable, since education and social patterns are only recently changing.

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Aneta Šmrhová was created by Dave for Cold Equations.
The earliest appearance by Šmrhová I can think of is Destiny, actually. Although could she have been in A Time to Kill and Heal too? I really liked David's recurring security and operations people that seemed to begin then and carry into Destiny (Alas for that runabout crew that got massacred in the 3rd Cold Equations book seemed to include several...)

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Oh, and if someone can get Miranda Kadohata back that would be great (although not at the expense of Ravel Dygan).
D'accord! On both points.
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Old December 24 2013, 05:11 PM   #19
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I'm wondering of the merry-go-round of crew on the Enterprise-E isn't someone over at Pocket wanting to force the reality of the transitional and ever-changing nature of military assignments in modern day down our throats? I've heard the argument before, especially from folks in the military, about how "unrealistic" it is that any crew would stay together so long. To which I always counter with 1) this isn't reality and 2) a smart enough society or chain of command would see how successful a specific group of people where and keep them together for just such reasons.

But it's always been in the back of my mind as we've seen so many officers come and go on the big E in recent years that it's someone with that view point trying to force such into Trek in defiance of the shows which have always kept the crews together...

Honestly, I think the constant shuffling of characters/crew all through Trek lit has been a big stumbling block. I really invested in the DS9 relaunch characters back in the day, which I didn't think I would when I started out. To see how a lot of them have gotten the proverbial shaft since "Unity" really irked me.

It just feels like, to me, someone over at Pocket at the top of the chain of command, is quietly sending down the order to keep shuffling the crews and characters. To keep killing the new ones and bring in others. All in an effort to show that reality of military life over what's good for a fictional 24th century...
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Old December 24 2013, 06:34 PM   #20
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I think you're reading too much into it.

Hell, we lost leybenzon and that vulcan counsellor because pocket didn't bother to send PAD a copy of q&a resulting in the characters varying wildly from one book to the next and ultimately having to be given the ejector seat.

That actually leads me to a question - if a trek author creates a character that's expected to stick around in one of the mainline series, do they also create...I don't know what to call it, a character outline I guess? Something that other authors continuing to write for the same series can draw on in addition to the book they're in?
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Old December 24 2013, 06:59 PM   #21
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^ Nothing so detailed. We usually just check in via e-mail with other authors who have written the character and ask, "What's the deal with [Character]? What do I need to know about this person?" That's usually enough to keep characters consistent from one book to the next.
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Old December 25 2013, 05:12 AM   #22
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I'm wondering of the merry-go-round of crew on the Enterprise-E isn't someone over at Pocket wanting to force the reality of the transitional and ever-changing nature of military assignments in modern day down our throats?
It isn't. The changes tend to come as much from the authors as the editors, or sometimes both, in that an author takes a character in a certain direction that leads the editor to decide it's time for a change.
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Old December 25 2013, 07:44 AM   #23
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Just wondering when Laforge is gonna finally be in a relationship haha. He seems to be in one with Brahams in "Indistinguishable From Magic" but in recent books there's no mention.
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Old December 25 2013, 08:08 AM   #24
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I thought LaForge was with someone (not Brahms) in one of the Fallen books, or possibly one of the Cold Equations books, but I might be misremembering.
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Lt. Taurik was created by René Echevarria and Ron Wilkerson & Jean Louise Matthias.)
Taurik - and Vorik - were also created by Jeri Taylor, in that she gave birth to the actor.
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Old December 25 2013, 01:28 PM   #26
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No, the actor was created by Jeri Taylor (and Dick Enberg). Not the roles.

Am I right that the books still haven't officially established whether Taurik and Vorik are related? I think of them as twins, but I don't think it's ever actually been stated.
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Old December 25 2013, 02:42 PM   #27
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And you know, it's a shame that the third-largest real-life religion in the world (fourth if you count "nonreligious") is still unfamiliar to an audience that's intimately versed in Bajoran and Klingon religion...
Just remember who most of the audience for Trek is and that would explain all.
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Old December 25 2013, 04:18 PM   #28
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No, the actor was created by Jeri Taylor (and Dick Enberg). Not the roles.

Am I right that the books still haven't officially established whether Taurik and Vorik are related? I think of them as twins, but I don't think it's ever actually been stated.
Until reading this, in my mind they were always the same character. I'd read one name or the other and think it the same character.
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Old December 25 2013, 05:23 PM   #29
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I think Christopher's right that their relationship, if any, hasn't been established. Which almost seems like a missed opportunity at this point.

There may be a great story there involving clones...
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Old December 25 2013, 08:30 PM   #30
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Until reading this, in my mind they were always the same character. I'd read one name or the other and think it the same character.
Well, that was the original intention; Vorik was supposed to be Taurik, having moved over from the Ent-D, but the producers changed his name because it sounded too much like "Tuvok" (although I would've thought the similarity to "Torres" would be a bigger concern).

However, the current novels have Taurik on the Ent-E and Vorik on Voyager simultaneously. So in the book continuity, they're two different people.
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