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Old December 20 2013, 04:55 AM   #61
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Re: X-Men: Apocalypse announced for May 2016

Well, he would be awesome in any role

To be fair, I think if we're talking about someone born in the ancient middle east and lived for thousands of years, I believe they generally go with Liam Neeson.
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Old December 20 2013, 05:19 AM   #62
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Well, Alex Proyas is making a movie called Gods of Egypt, and playing the Egyptian gods are the likes of Gerard Butler (Scottish), Nikolaj Coster-Waldau (Danish), and Geoffrey Rush (Australian of British/Irish/German ancestry). So there's that.
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Old December 20 2013, 05:20 AM   #63
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Liam needs to retire, or get some range.
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Old December 20 2013, 10:31 AM   #64
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In the IDW ongoing comic they are showing Khan's youth with the correct ethnicity so will presumably hand-wave away Cumberbatch's ethnicity as a disguise to protect his identity.

Additionally, Apocalypse sometimes usurps other bodies when his own wears out and he's a shapeshifter so handsome young white dude is more likely than anything else sadly.
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Old December 20 2013, 01:24 PM   #65
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Young white dudes are so underrepresented in film, it'll be good to see one of them finally getting a break.
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Old December 20 2013, 04:34 PM   #66
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Young white dudes are so underrepresented in film, it'll be good to see one of them finally getting a break.
True dat.

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Old December 20 2013, 08:07 PM   #67
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So Apocalypse will probably look pretty much like this, right? I've been assuming he'll be a CG mocap character; the vague unreality of even the highest-end CG could in this case work in the movie's favor to give him an even more nightmarish presence in addition to beefing up his physique.
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Old December 20 2013, 08:18 PM   #68
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Allowing for the typical exaggeration of comic-book art, I don't see anything about Apocalypse's appearance that couldn't be easily enough achieved with prosthetic makeup. Well, he is rather large and able to grow to giant size (at least he could in the '90s cartoon), so maybe he could be a mocap character.
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Old December 20 2013, 08:21 PM   #69
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In the IDW ongoing comic they are showing Khan's youth with the correct ethnicity so will presumably hand-wave away Cumberbatch's ethnicity as a disguise to protect his identity.

Additionally, Apocalypse sometimes usurps other bodies when his own wears out and he's a shapeshifter so handsome young white dude is more likely than anything else sadly.
I'm reading that too, but I assumed that Khan is going to die getting them aboard the Botany Bay, and Ricardo Khan is going to say to Bendict Khan with his dying breath: "Now you are Khan!"
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Old December 20 2013, 08:51 PM   #70
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Allowing for the typical exaggeration of comic-book art, I don't see anything about Apocalypse's appearance that couldn't be easily enough achieved with prosthetic makeup. Well, he is rather large and able to grow to giant size (at least he could in the '90s cartoon), so maybe he could be a mocap character.
Yeah probably same treatment they're going to give Thanos.
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Old December 20 2013, 11:12 PM   #71
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Allowing for the typical exaggeration of comic-book art, I don't see anything about Apocalypse's appearance that couldn't be easily enough achieved with prosthetic makeup. Well, he is rather large and able to grow to giant size (at least he could in the '90s cartoon), so maybe he could be a mocap character.
True, but one could have made the same argument for Gollum - find a very lanky guy, cover him in gray body paint, and give him a prosthetic skull cap. And one wouldn't have been wrong, either, but I don't think any of us wish they had gone that route.
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Old December 20 2013, 11:31 PM   #72
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His big blue lips make contact with his ear lobes.
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Old December 20 2013, 11:46 PM   #73
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Great news.

However, Mike Dougherty and Dan Harris unofficially did some re-write work on Days of Future Past, so this isn't all that surprising. Still good news, though.

I like Simon Kinberg, but he's very much hit or miss as a screenwriter. I trust Singer, but I'm glad Dougherty and Harris are back for Days of Future Past and Apocalypse.

Also, it seems that Singer is collaborating with Dougherty and Harris on an X-Men comic-book. They were slated to work on one in the pre-X-Men: The Last Stand days but Singer left that project for Superman Returns and the rest is history. With Singer back with the X-Men universe, it appears that comic-book is getting revitalized and will probably get released sometime next year.
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Old December 21 2013, 12:37 AM   #74
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True, but one could have made the same argument for Gollum - find a very lanky guy, cover him in gray body paint, and give him a prosthetic skull cap. And one wouldn't have been wrong, either, but I don't think any of us wish they had gone that route.
I don't quite agree with the analogy. The idea behind Gollum is that he's emaciated to an extreme degree, that the Ring has eaten away at his body and soul until there's very little left. Getting someone "lanky" wouldn't cut it; you'd need someone on the verge of starving to death. It's within the possible range of human variation but far beyond what you could ethically ask of any live performer.

Apocalypse, on the other hand, is basically just a big, muscular guy with gray skin and blue lines on his face who likes to wear big shoulder pads and a mongrammed belt buckle. Okay, he's about seven feet tall, which is getting into Richard Kiel/Carel Struycken territory, but it's doable.

Granted, though, finding someone really tall and muscular who's also a good actor is tricky. So that might justify going CGI, although it seems extravagantly expensive in a case like this, given that it's easy to make actors look bigger with costuming, camera angles, and the like.

I mean, really, if the X-Men movies got hung up on height, Hugh Jackman would never have qualified to be Wolverine.
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Old December 21 2013, 12:50 AM   #75
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I don't see it being a big deal either way.
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