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Old December 18 2013, 11:33 PM   #136
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Re: Has Fred Freiberger been misblamed for Season 3 over the years?

The Agony Booth reviews remind me of supposedly "funny" stuff I wrote in High School.
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Old December 19 2013, 12:00 AM   #137
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I think I should try novels so I can have new adventures with my ol pals.
I would recommend trying books by either Greg Cox or Dayton Ward. Cox' The Rings of Time is very good. Picking up on the events of Shaun Christopher, the not yet born offspring from "Tomorrow is Yesterday".
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Old December 19 2013, 12:01 AM   #138
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The Agony Booth reviews remind me of supposedly "funny" stuff I wrote in High School.
Yep. Though I really did find this funny!

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This isnít a screencap. Itís an eight minute video.
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Old December 19 2013, 02:49 AM   #139
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Speaking of 1999: anyone seen this video by the "Space Opera Society" where they propose Lucasing 1999?

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Old December 19 2013, 03:03 AM   #140
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^^ Yes, I have seen that. And while it is intriguing on some level I also have certain reservations. Space: 1999, like original Star Trek, is a product of its time. It is a visual document representative of science fiction in the visual medium of the day. In the least a revamped version should also allow the original to exist side-by-side.
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Old December 19 2013, 03:53 AM   #141
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I have LOTS of reservations about stuff like that.
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Old December 19 2013, 04:11 AM   #142
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I do so love that 70s scifi look, the unis, the hair, the lighting. Sigh. That was my childhood. Buck Rogers, Galactica, quilted shoulders, bright, white molded plastic interiors.
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Old December 19 2013, 04:58 AM   #143
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Reservations here as well. The only area I really found myself nodding in agreement was about keeping the original model work intact. Other than that...I just don't know. A flying camera probe to explain impossible screen shot angles? I'm just envisioning that "improvement" being used in The Menagerie, Part 1, when Spock's viewer image of Kirk and Mendez pulls back with dramatic zest.
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Old December 19 2013, 05:55 AM   #144
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Most action packed episode of 1999 evahr!
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Old December 19 2013, 07:18 AM   #145
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Speaking of 1999: anyone seen this video by the "Space Opera Society" where they propose Lucasing 1999?

They used to have a site specifically dedicated to this project a few years back, but it was taken down at the request of the current rights-holders of SPACE:1999.
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Old December 19 2013, 07:32 AM   #146
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Somehow, the premise of the show was never fully disentangled from its conception as the sequel to UFO, in which aliens would steal the Moon as a means of disarming Earth. (Apparently, the alien gravity ray doesn't cause the Moon to dissociate into a stream of particles, and it's easier to just make the Moon leave orbit than to destroy it; perhaps the aliens are reserving the possibility of brining it back someday.)
I don't recall ever reading/hearing the before.

Anyone who thinks the Moon can act as a "shield" has no idea how far away the Moon is (25ish Earth radii away), so if the UFOs just attacked when the Moon was on the far side from their approach vector...
Oh, I know. It was a serious flaw in UFO, that was in that case compounded by having only three interceptors, all of which were stationed at the moonbase. Plus, each interceptor had only one missile (the signature one at the nose). Each had cannons for close engagements as a last resort, but at least four UFOs sufficiently simultaneously from sufficiently different directions would all but assure that at least one could get through, and that's without mixing it up with decoys.

A wiki on the development of Space: 1999 out of UFO is here. The summary of "Zero G" at The Catacombs is here.

"Disarming Earth" is my way of putting it. The aliens (not the same ones as in UFO, by this point) seemed concerned with the militarization of the Moon. To justify the expenditure of taking out the Moon and for that to have the stated effect of containing humanity, it would naturally be necessary for lunar industry to be an important capability that the aliens would want neutralized, and for lunar industry to be necessary for interplanetary colonization, especially after the geological and climatological upheavals that would have resulted from the Moon's departure.

Thinking all this through with the contributions of first-rate science fiction authors wasn't ever a priority, which never benefitted either UFO or Space: 1999. Gerry Anderson shows tended to be more about vehicle porn than anything that made sense. I likes me some vehicle porn, nothing is wrong with that, but it is what it is, and isn't what it isn't. The fact that we're talking about a setting within the 20th century was another curtain that we weren't really supposed to be looking behind.
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Old December 19 2013, 03:44 PM   #147
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I'm not sure where I read this, but it does seem to fit the subtext within the series UFO.

I always got the feeling the Moonbase operations were still somewhat relatively new. Also basing the first line of defense there was just another way of trying to keep everything out of the public eye.

The other idea I got was the aliens themselves were not really in a position to mount a large offensive. Their homeworld was rife with problems and their forays to Earth were largely acts of desperation.
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Old December 19 2013, 10:18 PM   #148
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Just watched the 2099 promo.

No no no no no no no no no. The last straw was the super sweet 70s typewriter she was using and they turn it into a MacBook. Argh!!!

If I get Christmas money I'm buying the original, like my beloved clamshell TOS DVDs.

Everybody wants to change everything. Are we that dullardly that everything must be in today's manner or it is somehow unintelligible?

What is the music they open and close with? Is it the 1999 theme rerecorded? I'm really in the dark about the show. That music has some great slow chords and voicings. Sounds like John Barry.
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Old December 19 2013, 10:22 PM   #149
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Everybody wants to change everything. Are we that dullardly that everything must be in today's manner or it is somehow unintelligible?
I don't think so. While I found it more 'miss' than 'hit', I thought the TOS new-effects project was interesting to see and I had no issue with them making the attempt.
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Old December 19 2013, 10:24 PM   #150
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Speaking of 1999: anyone seen this video by the "Space Opera Society" where they propose Lucasing 1999?

They used to have a site specifically dedicated to this project a few years back, but it was taken down at the request of the current rights-holders of SPACE:1999.
It's still on a website I stumbled into. Glad to see the project was nixed by the rights holders.

I wonder if all this Lucasing of existing shows is just the path of least resistance for people who don't have the facility or ability to produce something original, so they try to figure out some way to tweak something they like to make money from it.

Yes, that's cynical.
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