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Old September 19 2013, 04:02 AM   #91
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Re: Kirk Enterprise - the Enterprise(a)?

Does anybody on here even have Xbox SmartGlass app
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Hopefully someone posts the scenes on Youtube.
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Old September 23 2013, 02:24 AM   #92
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I'm gonna throw another possibility out here, that it IS a physical model, but that it is MUCH smaller than indicated in the still. If it were a foreground miniature that was less than perfectly executed, that would convey the subtle wrongness of the pic. Abrams actually did a foreground miniature for the first film, but it was a scene cut from the release print (interesting synchroncity, that!), so they do, surprisingly enough, actually know the process.

Trek used FG miniatures in TMP for Vulcan (the brief shot at Yellowstone) and for Starfleet Command in TWOK (most of the lobby - lower level & atrium overhead - where Kirk & Spock wait for the elevator.)
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Old September 23 2013, 02:11 PM   #93
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That's all well and good, but I'm noticing that since I've asked for proof all I'm getting are theories regarding how it could be real, bot no statements that it is.

But, I am interested in facts, not theories. Is no one able to state with 100% certainty if this is real or fake?
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Old September 23 2013, 02:20 PM   #94
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That's all well and good, but I'm noticing that since I've asked for proof all I'm getting are theories regarding how it could be real, bot no statements that it is.

But, I am interested in facts, not theories. Is no one able to state with 100% certainty if this is real or fake?
No proof one way or the other except for the existence of the photo itself.

I guess everyone can take it or leave it.
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Old September 23 2013, 02:24 PM   #95
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^^Sounds like a fancy way of saying "no."
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Old September 23 2013, 02:42 PM   #96
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^^Sounds like a fancy way of saying "no."
I am not one of the "purists" so I don't mind either way to be honest, whether or not it fits canon, is fake or real doesn't make any difference to me.

I am ok either way.
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Old September 25 2013, 01:00 AM   #97
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That's all well and good, but I'm noticing that since I've asked for proof all I'm getting are theories regarding how it could be real, bot no statements that it is.

But, I am interested in facts, not theories. Is no one able to state with 100% certainty if this is real or fake?
If you're going to get this worked up over it, may I suggest you're asking in the wrong place? Nobody here worked on the film, so nobody here is going to be able to say it was on the set physically or added in post. Since there isn't a 'making of' on the film, b-t-s info is going to be lacking and continue to be lacking.

If you feel that compelled about this, PM me and I'll send you the email address for Scott Chambliss, the production designer (or at least it was his email in 2009, no guarantees it still works.) If he wants to know what happened to my Trek 09 article (for which he was interviewed, but the piece was never finished or published) for HD VIDEO PRO, tell him ILM PR dragged their heels for 2 months & didn't put anybody on the phone with me, plus Paramount failed to hook me up with the DP, so there wasn't anything besides his interview, which wouldn't have been enough for a cover story (especially since Paramount never sent my editor any photos, either.)
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Old September 25 2013, 07:12 PM   #98
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If this was real it would have been confirmed by now by somebody else.
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Old September 25 2013, 09:34 PM   #99
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I'm pretty sure had the app been on Apple IOS instead of Xbox Smartglass, we would've had all these scenes posted on Youtube already.
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Old September 25 2013, 10:19 PM   #100
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Has anyone even seen this particular scene? My search for info about deleted scenes has so far brought three results, Khan taking a shower, Carol talking about growing up in London and Kirk meeting Rima and Lucille Harewood at the ceremony at the end. No one is even talking about a deleted scene set in Marcus's office.

Can anyone even confirm that there is a deleted scene in his office? Hell, does even the novelization feature anything with Marcus that isn't in the movie? Just something that simple would go a long way in convincing me there's some legitimacy to this, and can be answered by anyone.
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Old September 25 2013, 10:27 PM   #101
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There was a scene or at the very least test footage shot in his office. Concept art shows him recieving Mr. Harewood's message on his holographic phone. We also see a one-second snippet from this same scene it at the very end of the "powerwall" video (all over in the concept art thread)
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Old December 11 2013, 01:19 PM   #102
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Should Senator Vreenak be making an appearance?
His appearance in this thread is long overdue!
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Old December 11 2013, 02:29 PM   #103
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With the deleted scene available (albeit only to Xbox One + iPad owners), you'd think we'd have gotten some confirmation one way or the other by now.
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Old December 11 2013, 07:40 PM   #104
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It's been three months exactly and rather than confirm for 100% certainty that it exists all anyone has done is post theories speculating on how it could be real and accuse those who don't believe it's real of being a TOS purist. As far as I'm concerned it's a fake, like good senator is famous for saying. I don't care if it makes me a TOS purist, but at this point nothing less than posting a link to the scene itself will convince me.
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Old December 17 2013, 07:52 AM   #105
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It's been three months exactly and rather than confirm for 100% certainty that it exists all anyone has done is post theories speculating on how it could be real and accuse those who don't believe it's real of being a TOS purist.
No one has done anything of the sort. Looking back through this thread, the only person who was making a stink about this photo and getting rebuffed was you. And the only person who even mentioned the word "purist" was Gonzo, and he was just making a general statement and not accusing you personally (and he wasn't even referring to TOS specifically), so please stop being so overly dramatic.

As far as I'm concerned it's a fake, like good senator is famous for saying. I don't care if it makes me a TOS purist, but at this point nothing less than posting a link to the scene itself will convince me.
You're welcome to believe it's a fake, and no one has told you that you should believe otherwise. I, however, believe it's real, simply because the 0718 meme is too specific for some random faker to utilize. The number obviously has some special meaning to someone on the production staff; ergo, it was one of them who created this for the film before it got cut.
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