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Old December 11 2013, 08:16 PM   #31
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Re: Capaldi's previous roles in DW and TW won't be ignored

Whatever about FOP, I'm somewhat wary of the idea of them referencing COE, with its grim (albeit brilliant plot) into Who, particularly given that Capaldi's character blew his own and his family's (including two children) brains out. I accept that COE took place within DW's timeline, I just think that story is a little heavy for the more family-friendly main programme.
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Old December 11 2013, 08:44 PM   #32
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Re: Capaldi's previous roles in DW and TW won't be ignored

Oh god not another Clara is everywhere type arc. Hopefully they can get more creative, but why bother. I can just see The Doctor being down in the dumps because of the whole Aliens taking children thing, even though it was a different character.
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Old December 12 2013, 04:07 AM   #33
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I'm wonderind why they're even bothering - it's not like he's the first Doctor to have appeared in the show previous to becoming the Doctor. What's the point of it other than being a smartarse?
I agree. I find it as pointless as the Star Trek Enterprise books trying to explain why the stuff we saw on screen looked more futuristic than TOS.

Ignore it and move forward.
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Old December 12 2013, 04:27 AM   #34
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Or it's an interesting opportunity to explore a facet of the Doctor that we've previously taken for granted.

I already find it compelling that a month after the Doctor rewrote his own history (in viewer time), he'll be forced to look in the mirror everyday and see the face of a man he broke the laws of time to save... a man whose family didn't do so well in the long run, according to RTD. What does that say about the Doctor's decision to save Gallifrey?

I've always thought a story could be told about the Doctor's faces. Why did 2 have the face of Ramon Salamander? Why did 6 have the face of Maxil? Are the faces random or do they appear with a purpose? It probably isn't a necessary bit of the lore to dive into... but we also didn't really need the TARDIS to explain why she never takes the Doctor where he wants to go. And I thought that episode was marvelous.
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Old December 12 2013, 04:33 AM   #35
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Why did 2 have the face of Ramon Salamander?
Pure coincidence given he regenerated before meeting Salamander.
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Old December 12 2013, 04:50 AM   #36
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Why did 2 have the face of Ramon Salamander?
Pure coincidence given he regenerated before meeting Salamander.
But that regeneration (or renewal) was described as being a function of the Tardis... which we know to be a living machine with a unique relationship with time. Did she give him a face that she for a reason? If so, could she do it again? Or perhaps he once glanced the face of Salamander in a history book in the far future and forgot about it. This Christmas will be the second time we've seen him take on the face of a person he has previously met, are all of the Doctor's faces generated randomly from somewhere in his memory?
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Old December 14 2013, 12:28 AM   #37
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Nice point Kelso. Perhaps the Tardis did help choose that face for him knowing it would allow him to do what he does in Enemy/World.
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Old December 14 2013, 09:03 AM   #38
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As long as it's entertaining i can't see a issue.
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Old December 17 2013, 05:54 AM   #39
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Are people these days unable to cope with an actor playing more than one role in a tv show without them being related in some way?
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Old December 17 2013, 07:03 AM   #40
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Are people these days unable to cope with an actor playing more than one role in a tv show without them being related in some way?
Of course they are, but it does open up some intriguing possibilities if done right.
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Old December 17 2013, 07:05 AM   #41
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Are people these days unable to cope with an actor playing more than one role in a tv show without them being related in some way?
Where did that come from? Who said it has anything to do with people being unable to cope?
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Old December 17 2013, 09:05 AM   #42
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On the face of it this interests me not in the least and I don't have any real desire to find out why Capaldi's Doctor has the same face as Caecilius or the guy from Torchwood. I'll obviously give Moffat the benefit of the doubt that he can make an interesting story of it, but it's easily the most dubious I've felt about a story direction. It's just the same actor. Assuming it's more than a throwaway line, obviously.
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Old December 18 2013, 02:38 AM   #43
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Maybe he will have a Bad Wolf moment and scatter his face across Time and Space.
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Old December 18 2013, 09:35 PM   #44
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The caretaker does say you will be revisiting old faces not just the favourites. Maybe this somehow refers to it.
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Old December 19 2013, 01:06 AM   #45
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The caretaker does say you will be revisiting old faces not just the favourites. Maybe this somehow refers to it.
he says "BUT just the old favourites"
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