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Old December 15 2013, 09:39 PM   #121
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Re: Joe Cornish To Direct STAR TREK 3?

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Many haters begin their critique with some glib "it's all 'splosions" rhetoric. Honestly, when I see this now, the rest of their post just blurs into blah blah blah for me.
So anyone and everyone who criticizes the action of the last two films should be dismissed as a "hater?" This is the kind of ugly closed-mindedness that is endemic to both sides.
No, that's not what I said at all, and I'll thank you not make assumptions reference my "ugly close mindedness" - it's rude and plain uncalled for.

You're right though, there is a lot of close mindedness, and pithy "'splosions" commentary supported by little else is endemic of that - which was my actual point. Essentially, that's what I object to.
There are going to be haters who refuse to accept any reboot or who try to psychoanalyze JJ Abrams and attribute ulterior motives to his every decision or anything he says in an interview, and that annoys me as much as it does anyone else. But there are also people who aren't going to agree with you about the action and/or character development in the last two films, who have a different point of view which you've flat out said you're going to dismiss out of hand. How is that, or generalizing anyone who complains about too many explosions as a "hater," not closed minded?
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Old December 15 2013, 10:09 PM   #122
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So anyone and everyone who criticizes the action of the last two films should be dismissed as a "hater?" This is the kind of ugly closed-mindedness that is endemic to both sides.
No, that's not what I said at all, and I'll thank you not make assumptions reference my "ugly close mindedness" - it's rude and plain uncalled for.

You're right though, there is a lot of close mindedness, and pithy "'splosions" commentary supported by little else is endemic of that - which was my actual point. Essentially, that's what I object to.
There are going to be haters who refuse to accept any reboot or who try to psychoanalyze JJ Abrams and attribute ulterior motives to his every decision or anything he says in an interview, and that annoys me as much as it does anyone else. But there are also people who aren't going to agree with you about the action and/or character development in the last two films, who have a different point of view which you've flat out said you're going to dismiss out of hand. How is that, or generalizing anyone who complains about too many explosions as a "hater," not closed minded?
No, I didn't "flat out say" I was going to dismiss the opinions of those who hold a different view "out of hand" - something I would never do. If you're going to continue to misquote and misrepresent me, this is pointless.

Once again, I've seen variants on "too many 'splosions" over and over again - and for me, it is getting very tiresome. Also, I said "many" not "anyone".
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Old December 15 2013, 10:40 PM   #123
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No, I didn't "flat out say" I was going to dismiss the opinions of those who hold a different view "out of hand" - something I would never do.
How else to interpret the following quote other than you have summarily decided certain criticisms -- one you specifically indicate with an eyeroll for emphasis -- are to dismissed out of hand?
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Many haters begin their critique with some glib "it's all 'splosions" rhetoric. Honestly, when I see this now, the rest of their post just blurs into blah blah blah for me.
Like I said, there are always going to be haters, but I'm not getting the connection between complaints about the indiscriminate use of explosions to "hating."
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Old December 16 2013, 04:09 AM   #124
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No, I didn't "flat out say" I was going to dismiss the opinions of those who hold a different view "out of hand" - something I would never do.
How else to interpret the following quote other than you have summarily decided certain criticisms -- one you specifically indicate with an eyeroll for emphasis -- are to dismissed out of hand?
LOKAI of CHERON wrote: View Post
Many haters begin their critique with some glib "it's all 'splosions" rhetoric. Honestly, when I see this now, the rest of their post just blurs into blah blah blah for me.
Like I said, there are always going to be haters, but I'm not getting the connection between complaints about the indiscriminate use of explosions to "hating."
Come on, guys. I've tried for years now to discourage the use of the term "hater" for all kinds of reasons—tends to lead to people beating their heads together for no good reason, among other things—but "many haters begin their critique" does not equal an explicit "connection between complaints about the indiscriminate use of explosions" and "hating".

We're all fans here, and we can manage to disagree on this or that without bending over backwards to take or give offense, 'K?
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Old December 16 2013, 05:22 PM   #125
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Come on, guys. I've tried for years now to discourage the use of the term "hater" for all kinds of reasons—tends to lead to people beating their heads together for no good reason, among other things—but "many haters begin their critique" does not equal an explicit "connection between complaints about the indiscriminate use of explosions" and "hating".
"Many criminals smoke marijuana... but understand, I'm not making any connection between the two."
We're all fans here, and we can manage to disagree on this or that without bending over backwards to take or give offense, 'K?
Sorry, Lokai, I didn't mean to get pushy, or to derail the thread. I have a tendency to do both, but rarely at the same time. Can we still meet for drinks in the southernmost part of the galaxy?
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