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Old December 15 2013, 09:42 PM   #16
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. . . . I still insist that Paris had more chemistry with Rain than he ever did with B'Elanna.
I could not agree more with this assessment! I've often wondered why this was the case and it continues to elude me! Perhaps McNeill was as put off by B'Elanna's obnoxious forehead piece as I am? That would throw my concentration off, believe me. Roxann's smokin' hot, of course. In any event ...

Not having read The Euegenics War novels, I have to ask ... are Rain and Roberta just "cameo," walk-on characters? Or do they have some part to play in the drama that unfolds in your book? Not asking for anything to be "given away," of course, but you did happen to mention it ...
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Old December 15 2013, 10:22 PM   #17
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of course. In any event ...

Not having read The Euegenics War novels, I have to ask ... are Rain and Roberta just "cameo," walk-on characters? Or do they have some part to play in the drama that unfolds in your book? Not asking for anything to be "given away," of course, but you did happen to mention it ...
Gary Seven and Roberta are major characters in the EW books, which are pretty much about Seven vs. Khan. Rain, alas, just makes a cameo appearance near the end of the second book.

I've always meant to do more with her, but the right story hasn't come around yet. (There's actually a character in another one of my Trek books, whom I thought about making Rain, but I ended up going in another direction.)
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Old December 15 2013, 10:35 PM   #18
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You are absolutely right to be selective about how you approach material concerning the Rain Robinson character. If you never do include her more, well ... at least you have and it makes perfect sense for her to be in The Eugenics War novel. She was around during the decade when Khan was, apparently, up to his mischief. So, there is a connection there that's in no way "tacked on." It's cool to see someone who's much closer to the franchise than I'll ever be who also thinks Rain would make a great subject for a book ... as much as I. So, absolutely, get the word out ... Rain is still in the TREK universe, having adventures! Don't we all wish we were, though?
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Old December 15 2013, 11:05 PM   #19
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Rain absolutely had a connection to Khan! She had a model of a DY-Class 100 sleeper ship in her office... She might have been involved in the construction and Khan might have had to seduce her to secure the ship for his exit.

Young Ricardo and Young Sarah on a blind date at an Italian restaurant so that he can steal her Key card to the launch site.

Doesn't that just scream the greatest love story never told?
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Old December 15 2013, 11:07 PM   #20
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It screams something, alright, but I'm not sure it can be repeated in mixed company ...
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Old December 16 2013, 12:53 AM   #21
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The so called "girls" here are most probably men.

Scream away.

I just got back form the library having purchased 26 Virginia Andrews (Flowers in the attic) novels, which is basically 70s house wives murderporn and "Bedwetter, Stories of Courage, Redemption and Pee" by Sarah Silverman for a paltry 5 dollars NZ.

One Christmas present down, too many to go,
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Old December 16 2013, 01:02 AM   #22
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I remember when Flowers in the Attic was HOT when I was a young teenager and reading it and thinking it was the worst thing I had ever read and also being convinced that no one's mothers had any idea what was in these books or we wouldn't be allowed to read them.

Of course everyone in that age group today is watching Game of Thrones.
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Old December 16 2013, 01:31 AM   #23
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They were on the "sale" table at the local library for 50 cents each.

I'm guessing there's 3 criteria for getting on that table.

1. Some one's used the book like a soccer ball.

2. x numbers of years have passed without anyone trying to withdraw the book.

3. The book has been replaced with a newer imprinting.

...

I don't think any one ever withdrew Bedwetter, considering the pristine condition it was in when I found it where I found it.
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Old December 16 2013, 01:58 AM   #24
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I don't think any one ever withdrew Bedwetter, considering the pristine condition it was in when I found it where I found it.
Whilst an "interesting" theory, to be sure ... I suspect there are other causes for Sarah's book being so pristine. For example: her readership being very respectful of Sarah's collection of random thoughts, in printed form.
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Old December 16 2013, 02:00 AM   #25
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The so called "girls" here are most probably men.

Scream away.
I say! It's all "go," isn't it?
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Old December 16 2013, 02:17 AM   #26
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Just like the Thunderbirds.
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Old December 16 2013, 05:57 PM   #27
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I remember when Flowers in the Attic was HOT when I was a young teenager and reading it and thinking it was the worst thing I had ever read and also being convinced that no one's mothers had any idea what was in these books or we wouldn't be allowed to read them.

Of course everyone in that age group today is watching Game of Thrones.
I assume everyone here knows that Lifetime has a new TV version of FLOWERS IN THE ATTIC coming up . . . .
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Old December 16 2013, 06:17 PM   #28
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... reminded me alot of Ms. Lincoln from the TOS Gary 7 episode. I've wondered if the one wasn't inspired by the other. Teri Garr also went onto great stardom after her turn as a loopy chick in STAR TREK, as evidenced by her role in the epic Science Fiction Classic: Close Encounters of the Third Kind.
Actually, she played two similar roles around that time: both were the put-upon wife whose husband had gone nuts (Richard Dreyfuss kept seeing UFOs and building Devil's Tower in his living room and John Denver kept having conversations with God).
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Old December 16 2013, 06:59 PM   #29
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... reminded me alot of Ms. Lincoln from the TOS Gary 7 episode. I've wondered if the one wasn't inspired by the other. Teri Garr also went onto great stardom after her turn as a loopy chick in STAR TREK, as evidenced by her role in the epic Science Fiction Classic: Close Encounters of the Third Kind.
Actually, she played two similar roles around that time: both were the put-upon wife whose husband had gone nuts (Richard Dreyfuss kept seeing UFOs and building Devil's Tower in his living room and John Denver kept having conversations with God).
Yeah, I remember being amused at the time that she was basically playing the same role in both movies . . . .
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Old December 16 2013, 07:08 PM   #30
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Definitely against the "type" she's come to be known as.

Rain was cute, adorable and funny. Sarah Silverman (now) is not.
I remember when she was cast as Vanelope in Wreck It Ralph, and one of the things the movie reviewers said about her was how much of a departure playing this sweet little kid role was, and when they saw it they thought it actually fit her like a glove. The way they said that, it was like they couldn't conceive of her playing that role. Ever. She really got plaudits for it.

When I read all that I was like, "Rain Robinson is Vanelope grown up!" It was the same kind of really sweet, affecting performance. And she did it *before* she got her own show or anything!

I hate movie reviewers sometimes.

(Yeah, chalk me up as another Sarah Silverman fan.)
I found out literally yesterday that Sarah and her sister Laura Silverman voice the twins Ollie and Andy Pesto in Bob's Burgers, two of my favorite characters on the show. They're gross and simple-minded, but very very sweet, sincere, and genuine in their love for each other, which makes them really endearing -- and their gross nature is simply because they're like many other 9 year old boys. I love these seeming contradictions, and was happily surprised by the Silverman sisters in the show.
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