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Old December 15 2013, 12:30 AM   #1021
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Re: Orci, Kurtzman and Lindelof should not Return.

That's just sad on so many levels.
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Old December 15 2013, 12:37 AM   #1022
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Speak for yourself. I had to force myself to watch it.
Three times in a single weekend.

I know everyone has different tastes, just having a bit of fun with MakeshiftPython's statement.
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Old December 15 2013, 12:42 AM   #1023
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Can a company rip itself off ?
Is this the Mitt Romney "corporations are people" thing?
I'm trying real hard to see how you infered that from my post.
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Old December 15 2013, 12:51 AM   #1024
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If I ever have fun with Trek again, it will not be on he big screen but the small one. Here's hoping for that day.
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Old December 15 2013, 12:55 AM   #1025
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If I ever have fun with Trek again, it will not be on he big screen but the small one. Here's hoping for that day.
For me, another TV series would be tedious and overkill. I'd rather have a new outer-space drama instead of beating the rancid, bloated carcass of Star Trek again and again.

Movies every few years are a fun nostalgic trip for me. Another TV series, not so much.
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Old December 15 2013, 01:02 AM   #1026
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If I ever have fun with Trek again, it will not be on he big screen but the small one. Here's hoping for that day.
For me, another TV series would be tedious and overkill. I'd rather have a new outer-space drama instead of beating the rancid, bloated carcass of Star Trek again and again.

Movies every few years are a fun nostalgic trip for me. Another TV series, not so much.
That's where I'm at, and have been since Enterprise. Hell, even a miniseries every so often would be preferred to another year on year of formulaic stories.
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Old December 15 2013, 01:07 AM   #1027
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^As much as I hate to agree with you, yeah, Star Trek should stay on the big screen; it's pretty much reached the limits of what it can be on the small screen.
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Old December 15 2013, 01:10 AM   #1028
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Except theatrical films cannot be anywhere near as inventive and flexible as a tv series, despite a bigger budget. I think Trek TV is still feasible. That last season of ENT proved it could still be done as long as you had passionate writers behind it.
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Old December 15 2013, 01:15 AM   #1029
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If I ever have fun with Trek again, it will not be on he big screen but the small one. Here's hoping for that day.
For me, another TV series would be tedious and overkill. I'd rather have a new outer-space drama instead of beating the rancid, bloated carcass of Star Trek again and again.

Movies every few years are a fun nostalgic trip for me. Another TV series, not so much.
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That's where I'm at, and have been since Enterprise. Hell, even a miniseries every so often would be preferred to another year on year of formulaic stories.
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^As much as I hate to agree with you, yeah, Star Trek should stay on the big screen; it's pretty much reached the limits of what it can be on the small screen.
We better be careful. We'll be tagged as Star Trek fans that hate Star Trek.

I think the biggest thing that convinced me Star Trek's day was over was the Mass Effect trilogy of games. They convinced me that sci-fi could be big and fun again but also handle serious issues. The storytelling was sharp and visually it was exciting in a way Star Trek hasn't been since TOS. I've got a bad feeling that once Star Wars: Episode VII hits theaters, Trek will look like it is standing still visually.
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Old December 15 2013, 01:16 AM   #1030
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I've no real preference when it come to Trek. I'll take either one or both.

Except theatrical films cannot be anywhere near as inventive and flexible as a tv series, despite a bigger budget. I think Trek TV is still feasible. That last season of ENT proved it could still be done as long as you had passionate writers behind it.
They're different mediums with different strengths and weaknesses. A film can be just as inventive and flexible as TV and vice versa.
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Old December 15 2013, 01:18 AM   #1031
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Except theatrical films cannot be anywhere near as inventive and flexible as a tv series, despite a bigger budget. I think Trek TV is still feasible. That last season of ENT proved it could still be done as long as you had passionate writers behind it.
It isn't whether it's feasible or not. It's whether or not I want to really revisit the universe again on a weekly basis? As much as I love Star Trek, the answer for me is no.

I have trouble mustering up the interest to read a Trek comic or novel anymore.
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Old December 15 2013, 01:26 AM   #1032
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Except theatrical films cannot be anywhere near as inventive and flexible as a tv series, despite a bigger budget. I think Trek TV is still feasible. That last season of ENT proved it could still be done as long as you had passionate writers behind it.
It isn't whether it's feasible or not. It's whether or not I want to really revisit the universe again on a weekly basis? As much as I love Star Trek, the answer for me is no.
Yeah, they've kinda of mined it all out. By the end of Voyager the galaxy felt tiny. Even if they went to another Galaxy, it'd just be the same formula again. It got predictable.
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Old December 15 2013, 01:38 AM   #1033
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The big draw is characters you want to follow, not whatever formula.
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Old December 15 2013, 01:44 AM   #1034
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The big draw is characters you want to follow, not whatever formula.
Which Trek has sadly lacked since most of Voyager. Hell, even the characters got to be formulaic after a while. By the time Voyager ended, I didn't not care one bit if they got home or not. Enterprise's characters were bland--a big problem for a prequel--but they fit in all the appropriate peg holes.
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Old December 15 2013, 01:45 AM   #1035
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The big draw is characters you want to follow, not whatever formula.
Depends on the show. Some are formula driven, some are character driven and some are plot driven. There's more than one way to do TV.
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