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Old December 12 2013, 06:22 PM   #46
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Re: Dumb blog in defense of texting while driving

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the Department of Transportation has granted a $550,000 grant to discover possible ways of catching it.
Most smart phones have gps. using gps if the phone determines that the user is is traveling between 20mph and 200mph it disables the texting function. QED. Where do I collect the $550k?

FYI, the upper limit on the speed allows airline passengers to still text.
What about trains and passengers in cars?
Fuck'em. Give me my $550k.
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Old December 12 2013, 10:22 PM   #47
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Re: Dumb blog in defense of texting while driving

How about a device built into the driver seat that emits a signal to a certain range that tells the phone to deactivate texting. So if the phone is within a certain range of the driver's seat, no texts. That was passengers can continue to use their phones as normal and drivers can still use them as hands free.
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Old December 12 2013, 11:31 PM   #48
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Why concentrate on driving the vehicle? Fuck everyone else.
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Old December 13 2013, 01:06 AM   #49
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Re: Dumb blog in defense of texting while driving

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How about a device built into the driver seat that emits a signal to a certain range that tells the phone to deactivate texting. So if the phone is within a certain range of the driver's seat, no texts. That was passengers can continue to use their phones as normal and drivers can still use them as hands free.
That will just create a class of even more distracted drivers, leaning, stretching.. striving to keep their phone out of jamming range, squinting to read their new messages.
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Old December 13 2013, 01:19 AM   #50
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Re: Dumb blog in defense of texting while driving

Not to mention implausible and I'm pretty sure would violate FCC laws on having signal-jamming devices. Yeah, a signal-jamming device that can isolate texting inside the narrow space of the driver's seat.

I'd think of something closer to an "annunciator" that detects when the car is moving using the GPS and when the texting mode is on/being used. It causes a pop-up/internal-text that reminds people to look at the road. Maybe it does this when a text is started, is clicked away, and returns periodically as the text and conversation continues. At the very least this would be annoying to texters who won't bother with texting while driving because of it. Passengers, of course, would have to deal with it too but wouldn't have their attention as divided so maybe a bit less of a hassle.
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Old December 13 2013, 05:52 AM   #51
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Re: Dumb blog in defense of texting while driving

I never said signal jamming. I said a device that sends a signal to the phone that the phone in turn reads and shuts off the ability to text.
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Old December 13 2013, 07:56 AM   #52
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How about a device built into the driver seat that emits a signal to a certain range that tells the phone to deactivate texting. So if the phone is within a certain range of the driver's seat, no texts. That was passengers can continue to use their phones as normal and drivers can still use them as hands free.
Motorcycles will have them too, right?
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Old December 13 2013, 03:54 PM   #53
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Re: Dumb blog in defense of texting while driving

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I never said signal jamming. I said a device that sends a signal to the phone that the phone in turn reads and shuts off the ability to text.
That would still shut down the texting ability of anyone else in the car, or like what was mentioned above, they just hold their phone over the passenger's seat.

A better solution would be to automatically pair the phone into the bluetooth of the car and that deactivates the texting feature. Still, it would be difficult to get around the fact the other phones in the car would be text-restricted as well.

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Ok, nevermind, I guess you idea is truly brilliant for the people whose phones leave wifi on in airplane mode, are configured to send SMS over wifi, and who want to pay for in-flight wifi towards that purpose.
Since cellular signals don't reach up to an airplane's cruising altitude, wifi is their only option.
I never tried it. I would have guessed you'd occasionally connect to cell towers long enough for it to handle text delivery. But I'll defer to your expertise. I feel like I've gotten some cell signal several miles out from a tower in rural Minnesota with decent line of site before. Is that a bullshit observation and I was much closer than I thought? Is cruising altitude unfavorable for cell transmissions for some reason? Do cell tower antennas just not direct signal upwards?
You're usually closer than you think to a cell tower. Regardless, you're also 6-7 miles up when cruising and cell tower signals are designed to radiate out, not up.
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Old December 13 2013, 06:51 PM   #54
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Re: Dumb blog in defense of texting while driving

Trying to find some technical means to stop phones from texting in a car is a fool's errand. People will always find a way around that.

Make it technologically irrelevant with voice activation, dictation, and text-to-speech features. That's really the only way it's going to be solved. (That, or all the idiots texting get themselves killed in the meantime.)
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Old December 13 2013, 07:50 PM   #55
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Re: Dumb blog in defense of texting while driving

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I never said signal jamming. I said a device that sends a signal to the phone that the phone in turn reads and shuts off the ability to text.
That would still shut down the texting ability of anyone else in the car
You say that like it's a bad thing...
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Old December 13 2013, 08:08 PM   #56
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It is bad. It would be inconvenient to any passengers in the car.
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Old December 13 2013, 08:09 PM   #57
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^ Let them wait until they get OUT of the car to text, then.
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Old December 13 2013, 08:12 PM   #58
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^ Let them wait until they get OUT of the car to text, then.
There are many legitimate reasons to text while in a car. Are they necessary? No, probably not. We did okay before we had mobile devices and texting. But it's unrealistic, short-sighted, unnecessary, and narrow-minded to propose that no one should have the ability to text in a car.
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Old December 13 2013, 08:13 PM   #59
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Re: Dumb blog in defense of texting while driving

^ For extended trips that last hours, I agree, you do need some kind of a diversion. But the whole reason we're discussing this is to eliminate the problem of texting while DRIVING. If that means that passengers can't text either, well, that's a kind of side effect I could live with.
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Old December 13 2013, 08:16 PM   #60
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You don't need a diversion. Texting isn't something that is frivolous but suddenly becomes necessary after a certain duration of time. You repeatedly look at issues from a very narrow point of view, your own. Step outside and imagine what other people's uses, needs, and possible alternatives might be instead of just thinking about what you could live with.
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