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View Poll Results: Should there be a TIME TRAVEL episode on SHIELD?
Yes 14 53.85%
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Old December 10 2013, 07:38 AM   #16
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Re: AGENTS of SHIELD: Should they make a TIME TRAVEL episode?

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I'm still a little fuzzy on whether or not the MacGuffin in 0-8-4 had traveled back in time. It seems to have been dated as at least 1500 years old, yet it also appeared to be German made.
That was a mistake by Fitz/Simmons. They dated the rock that the device was buried in to 1500 years ago not realizing the device had melted it's way down to that location.
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Old December 10 2013, 08:08 AM   #17
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I'm still a little fuzzy on whether or not the MacGuffin in 0-8-4 had traveled back in time. It seems to have been dated as at least 1500 years old, yet it also appeared to be German made.
That was a mistake by Fitz/Simmons. They dated the rock that the device was buried in to 1500 years ago not realizing the device had melted it's way down to that location.
If that's the way it's supposed to play, then somebody might want to update teh wiki, which says:

Coulson orders the archaeologist to evacuate his team while Simmons determines that the artifact is more than 1500 years old, though Fitz suggests that the craftsmanship appears German.
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Old December 10 2013, 08:54 AM   #18
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Re: AGENTS of SHIELD: Should they make a TIME TRAVEL episode?

I thought they were explicit that it was commissioned post WW2 and had dug itself into the millennia old wall. They only thought it *might* be ancient when they didn't know what it was or how it got there.

Also, a wiki is not a reliable source of information.
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Old December 10 2013, 09:16 AM   #19
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I thought they were explicit that it was commissioned post WW2 and had dug itself into the millennia old wall. They only thought it *might* be ancient when they didn't know what it was or how it got there.

Also, a wiki is not a reliable source of information.
Who said it was? All I said was that someone might want to fix it.
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Old December 10 2013, 05:31 PM   #20
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Re: AGENTS of SHIELD: Should they make a TIME TRAVEL episode?

^ Yeah, somebody stopped paying attention halfway through the episode and missed the resolution to that contradiction.

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No. No one should do a time travel episode. Ever again. No one knows how to do anything interesting with them. Physicists and philosophers haven't solved the grandfather paradox and neither have sci-fi writers. They are simply used as reset button ex machinas. It killed Star Trek. Never again, please God never again.
Tell that to Doctor Who.
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Old December 10 2013, 06:18 PM   #21
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Time Travel...yes!
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Old December 10 2013, 06:27 PM   #22
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Handled right SHIELD could do an excellent episode...
And there's the problem.. i have no faith that anyone can handle it right. I hope they do if they decide to make one and there are good ones (like the now legendary DS9 Tribbles episode) but i've seen too many of them to get excited at all.

Shield is good as it is (well.. it's not there yet but it's improving constantly) so i don't see the "need" for such a gimmick.
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Should SHIELD do the obligatory episode? I would be fine for it as long as it is just a one off episode where they are unable to duplicate the method of time traveling so as not to milk it to death the way STAR TREK went to that well several times too many making it less special so to speak.
Agreed - I would like to see one under the conditions you stated (non-repeatable so as to prevent it from being overused). I would also add if they are going to use time travel, develop the rules for how time travel will work with Earth-19999 and stick to them - don't just make it up as you go.
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Old December 11 2013, 12:51 AM   #24
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Maybe they could go to the future and meet the descendants of the Avengers.
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Old December 11 2013, 05:49 AM   #25
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They should do anything that will inject some life into this lifeless little show. It's become much like watching cardboard decay.
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Old December 11 2013, 06:08 AM   #26
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They should go back to the 40s and get Agent Carter in there.
Agent Carter and Dum Dum Dugan, and the rest of the Howling Commandos as well!
And Dominic Fortune, Brigand For Hire!
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Old December 12 2013, 01:04 AM   #27
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^ Yeah, somebody stopped paying attention halfway through the episode and missed the resolution to that contradiction.

Rageforthemachine wrote: View Post
No. No one should do a time travel episode. Ever again. No one knows how to do anything interesting with them. Physicists and philosophers haven't solved the grandfather paradox and neither have sci-fi writers. They are simply used as reset button ex machinas. It killed Star Trek. Never again, please God never again.
Tell that to Doctor Who.
I thought about that when I was writing my post, but I don't think Doctor Who quite fits the standard Time Travel trope. The Doctor mainly traveled back and forth in time rather than starting from point X and going backwards in time for a retcon. I haven't seen the new version but even the older version cut back on the travel within Earth's history after the first Doctor.
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Old December 12 2013, 01:51 AM   #28
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Re: AGENTS of SHIELD: Should they make a TIME TRAVEL episode?

There's definitely a greater focus on the mechanics of time travel in the new series ("timey-wimey" plots), but opinions vary on whether that's a good thing or not. Personally, I love it.
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Old December 12 2013, 02:19 AM   #29
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Yeah, there's quite some good ones. Steven Moffat is a huge fan of predestination paradoxes, usually handled in a relatively whimsical way. I'm partial to them as well, so I can't complain. My point is just that you shouldn't blame time travel when the culprit is actually just bad writing.
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