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Old December 10 2013, 04:08 AM   #31
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Re: Excelsior 3000

The round deflector works better, IMHO. It does a better job of selling the scale of the ship, plus the oval version just looks squished and misshapen to my eye.
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Old December 10 2013, 04:34 AM   #32
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My only issue with the deflector as-is is glowing rim that makes it look like it is floating out away from the body a bit. I also wouldn't mind seeing less glowing in general, but I generally always lean towards less glow wherever possible.
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Old December 10 2013, 04:37 AM   #33
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I also wouldn't mind seeing less glowing in general, but I generally always lean towards less glow wherever possible.
C'mon, man, it's Star Trek. Pointless glowing and blinking things are obligatory!
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Old December 10 2013, 04:39 AM   #34
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The design trends of the 80s and 90s were mostly abandoned for good reason. They served their purpose, now let them die their hero's death.
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Old December 10 2013, 07:20 PM   #35
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I could tone down the glows, go TOS, with less blue and more copper. Could improve my sense of realism and scale. Might imply lower tech though, while I'm shooting for higher… Maybe split the difference?
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Old December 11 2013, 12:35 AM   #36
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Or perhaps try something new entirely to suggest a revolutionary new technology that has finally replaced the dish.
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Old December 11 2013, 12:51 AM   #37
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would like to see an organic sort of design
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Old December 11 2013, 01:27 AM   #38
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Or perhaps try something new entirely to suggest a revolutionary new technology that has finally replaced the dish.
That's a good idea. A deflector dish alternative, in the same place, and conveying the same function, but different...
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Old December 12 2013, 08:14 PM   #39
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^Yet I can't think of anything...
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Old December 12 2013, 09:23 PM   #40
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That's actually something I really found interesting about the Dauntless in "Hope and Fear," where it had a weird ribbed glowing thing (kind of like the blue parts of TNG era warp nacelles) where the deflector would normally be.



It definitely gave the impression of being similar in function to the tech we're used to, but not quite the same. Which makes sense since if I recall correctly the slipstream drive used the deflector instead of the warp nacelles.
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Old December 13 2013, 12:14 AM   #41
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Still glows blue, but nice to see a prescedent.
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Old December 16 2013, 10:54 AM   #42
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I still find the main deflector glaringly ugly
Any improvement over this?


Perhaps I just made it more complex, without actually correcting it…

I really like the deflector from that angle; reminds me of the nose of the Galaxy Quest Protector a bit!
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Old December 16 2013, 02:31 PM   #43
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Still glows blue, but nice to see a prescedent.
I don't think starships are allowed to NOT glow blue. I'm pretty sure there's a rule about that somewhere.
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Old December 16 2013, 09:57 PM   #44
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I still find the main deflector glaringly ugly
Any improvement over this?


Perhaps I just made it more complex, without actually correcting it…

A MASSIVE improvement over the former, though I'll need to see it from different angles before I'm sold. It kind of reminds me a little of the Ambassador class's deflector, and believe me: that is not a bad thing, because I like the Ambassador class. I'm certainly not against the idea of experimenting with different designs if you have the time though.
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Old December 23 2013, 08:18 PM   #45
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I'd like to see a version with a circular saucer.
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