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Old December 7 2013, 07:35 AM   #16
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Re: Disney's Frozen - Grading and Discussion

I don't think this or Brave really needed a central villain though. In both cases it was about the relationships between the characters and how they changed as the movies went along.
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Old December 8 2013, 01:20 AM   #17
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Old December 8 2013, 03:12 AM   #18
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I don't think this or Brave really needed a central villain though. In both cases it was about the relationships between the characters and how they changed as the movies went along.
And the real villain was Elsa's fear and repression of her powers.
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Old December 8 2013, 03:14 AM   #19
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I don't think this or Brave really needed a central villain though. In both cases it was about the relationships between the characters and how they changed as the movies went along.
I think Brave really needed more of a villain. Frozen had a very memorable climactic reveal about Hans, even though he wasn't obviously the bad guy throughout.
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Old December 8 2013, 03:25 AM   #20
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My memory of Brave isn't really clear enough for specific comments, but I remember being happy with the way things played out.
I like your description of the villain Tom, I hadn't really thought of it along those lines, but it works for me.

EDIT: If anyone hasn't seen it yet, or wants to watch it again, the song "Let it Go" is now online.
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Old December 8 2013, 03:08 PM   #21
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I havent seen the film yet, but the trailers and the bits I have seen on progrms etc and the overall art style make it look a lot like "Tangled on Ice".

now I loved Tangled, awesome film, but dont want to see an inferior rehashed version with snow. Is it different enough to go see?
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Old December 8 2013, 03:57 PM   #22
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I havent seen the film yet, but the trailers and the bits I have seen on progrms etc and the overall art style make it look a lot like "Tangled on Ice".

now I loved Tangled, awesome film, but dont want to see an inferior rehashed version with snow. Is it different enough to go see?
Absolutely. I would even argue that it's better than Tangled (which I loved), and the best Disney Animation Studios production since, uh... Lilo & Stitch?

I wasn't too impressed by the trailers either, but the film itself is much better than they'd suggest. The art style may be somewhat similar to Tangled (and I prefer Tangled's character designs), but Frozen's story is quite different, the characters are great, and the songs are much better and better integrated into the flow of the film.


I actually went to see Frozen a second time today, this time with my 6 year-old sister, and I loved it just as much as I did the first time. (My sis loved it, too, of course.)
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Loved it, and the inherent story of the bond between the sisters.
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EDIT: If anyone hasn't seen it yet, or wants to watch it again, the song "Let it Go" is now online.
Thanks for this. It's my absolute favorite part of the movie, which I thought was great overall.

The finer points:

-When Elsa ran from the castle and into the mountains I had a silly image of a bald guy in a wheelchair appearing in her path going "My name is Charles Xavier. I'm from the future. I'm here to help."

-Another favorite moment was when Elsa took down the assassins. It was like Carrie, with ice.

-Foreign policy ought to be easy for Elsa:

ENEMY KING: I declare war on Elsa and her kingdom!

PRIME MINISTER (two days later): Majesty! Our entire army was just buried in an avalanche of snow, and we're nowhere near the mountains!

ENEMY KING: Never mind...
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Old December 9 2013, 09:07 PM   #25
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Frozen maybe the best female superhero story we ever get. Because I don't see any major studios making a superhero movie with not one but two female protagonist. The whole Let it Go sequence is like Spiderman using his powers for the first time, it's very powerful.

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The finer points:

-When Elsa ran from the castle and into the mountains I had a silly image of a bald guy in a wheelchair appearing in her path going "My name is Charles Xavier. I'm from the future. I'm here to help."
Sadly, FOX owns the movie rights, otherwise he would have been able to give her some advice and the whole crisis could have been avoided.
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Old December 10 2013, 08:54 PM   #27
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Absolutely.
Cheers. I may just go see it.
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EDIT: If anyone hasn't seen it yet, or wants to watch it again, the song "Let it Go" is now online.
Thanks for this. It's my absolute favorite part of the movie, which I thought was great overall.

The finer points:

-When Elsa ran from the castle and into the mountains I had a silly image of a bald guy in a wheelchair appearing in her path going "My name is Charles Xavier. I'm from the future. I'm here to help."

-Another favorite moment was when Elsa took down the assassins. It was like Carrie, with ice.

-Foreign policy ought to be easy for Elsa:

ENEMY KING: I declare war on Elsa and her kingdom!

PRIME MINISTER (two days later): Majesty! Our entire army was just buried in an avalanche of snow, and we're nowhere near the mountains!

ENEMY KING: Never mind...
Save it for a sequel... Frozen: Invasion of the Fire Nation.
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Old December 11 2013, 03:53 AM   #29
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I havent seen the film yet, but the trailers and the bits I have seen on progrms etc and the overall art style make it look a lot like "Tangled on Ice".

now I loved Tangled, awesome film, but dont want to see an inferior rehashed version with snow. Is it different enough to go see?
There are some similar beats like the male character and animal sidekick.

The trappings are great but the story felt a bit overly familiar (not necessarily Tangled but Disney in general) for my tastes.
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Old January 8 2014, 10:17 PM   #30
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Really surprised by how much I got into this film after finally seeing it a few days ago. Love the story, the characters, the music. Man, the music! At least 3 unforgettable songs, only one I wasn't really fond of and that took me out of the movie ('Fixer-Upper', but even that one still has some merit if you listen to some of the lyrics).

Definitely feels like a future classic. I look forward to getting this on DVD.
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