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Old December 8 2013, 03:00 AM   #16
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Re: J.D. Payne and Patrick McKay hired to write Trek 3 with Orci

Hopefully they can meet the deadline to have this movie in theatres by 2016.
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Old December 8 2013, 03:51 AM   #17
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So 2 dudes with no prior writing credits (imdb lists ST3 as their first) are co-writing the movie.
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These guys really have zero experience and they're co-writing a $170million blockbuster? This does not inspire confidence.
"having penned a big-screen adaptation of the graphic novel Boilerplate."

Every screenwriter has to start somewhere. Roddenberry should have refused "The Trouble With Tribbles" from that young whippersnapper, David Gerrold? Fontana should have refused "The Pirates of Orion" from that young whippersnapper, Howard Weinstein?

Wasn't it only yesterday people were chanting, "Give us someone new!" and "No more Lindeloff, no more Kurtzman!"?
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Old December 8 2013, 03:56 AM   #18
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Sounds to me like this is really Orci's show; The two junior writers are just there to get experience and gain street cred by working on a major title. Whatever input they have's gonna be minimal, and Orci won't let them get too far into canon-breaking waters.

The director announcement is the one to watch. Barring another writer's strike, the script's just gonna be clay for the director (and cast) to mold and even reshape on set or in the editing room. If no other worthy name pops up, I wonder if Orci himself might try to take a stab at it.
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Old December 8 2013, 04:04 AM   #19
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Whatever input they have's gonna be minimal, and Orci won't let them get too far into canon-breaking waters.
Slingshot 'round the sun, did you?

And "canon" for this film is now two movies, and whatever they decide to cherrypick from the related game and comics. Not much likely to be broken in there.
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Old December 8 2013, 05:25 AM   #20
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I want my prime universe back.

If enough of their audience say the same thing, do you think the producers, director and writers would listen to them? Or just go ahead with what they deign to give them? Sadly, I am sure of the latter. They know better what's good for the audience than the audience themselves.
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Old December 8 2013, 05:54 AM   #21
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"Never give the fans what they think they want"-Stan Lee
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Old December 8 2013, 06:02 AM   #22
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I want my prime universe back.

If enough of their audience say the same thing, do you think the producers, director and writers would listen to them? Or just go ahead with what they deign to give them? Sadly, I am sure of the latter. They know better what's good for the audience than the audience themselves.
Outside of a loud minority of fandom, no one wants the Prime Universe back.
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Old December 8 2013, 06:28 AM   #23
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There are times I want it back.

So I log in to Netflix.
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Old December 8 2013, 07:19 AM   #24
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I want my prime universe back.
Then we should have supported DS9, VOY, ENT, "Insurrection" and "Nemesis" better. The steady downward ratings slide was fans of the prime universe voting their disinterest with a lack of bums on seats.
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Old December 8 2013, 11:00 AM   #25
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Therin of Andor wrote: View Post
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I want my prime universe back.
Then we should have supported DS9, VOY, ENT, "Insurrection" and "Nemesis" better. The steady downward ratings slide was fans of the prime universe voting their disinterest with a lack of bums on seats.
And that's the problem. With the exception of DS9, every other one of those things were crap. I wouldn't mind seeing the prime timeline back in some form or another either, but if it's just gonna be more crap for the sake of bringing it back to please a few die-hard fans, I'm sure as hell not going to support it. That's what happened with the Babylon 5 The Lost Tales direct-to-dvd schlock, and even JMS admitted it was a mistake.
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Old December 8 2013, 12:47 PM   #26
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I don't want the Prime universe back. I'm far more excited about the possibilities in the new universe. I'm sure more people want Captain Kirk than Captain Worf.
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Old December 8 2013, 03:40 PM   #27
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Somehow I find it ironic that these two writers are known for writing "boilerplate." Indeed, Khan might as well be Trek boilerplate.
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Old December 8 2013, 05:09 PM   #28
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Can't comment on these two new writers, but with Orci around I'm still cautious. At least Lindelof is gone.
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Old December 8 2013, 05:35 PM   #29
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I don't want the Prime universe back. I'm far more excited about the possibilities in the new universe. I'm sure more people want Captain Kirk than Captain Worf.
I'd like Captain Sulu.
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Old December 8 2013, 06:59 PM   #30
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Give us more ENT! It's canon to both the Prime and the JJreboot.

That is the only series I wish we got more of. Even if it was one more season.
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