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Old December 8 2013, 03:48 AM   #946
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I would not agree: Even if the display is sharp, the source material - even if in 1080p - sometimes is not. Here an example of original TNG bluray footage additionally sharpened; it can bring out more details and emphasize edges without enhancing the grain too much (left original, right sharpened):



Source: http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/thumbnail...bum=71&page=18

I have a 42" Panasonic Plasma, and I have sharpening always slightly enabled, because it enhances slightly blurry HD material like the TNG blurays.
It should be noted that your odd scaling factor (around 114.7%) and re-compression of the TrekCore jpg on the left, which in turn was compressed from a png capture, has softened the image slightly more than it appears on the Blu-ray. Also, as jimbotron has pointed out, you've introduced artifacts that weren't there originally in your sharpened image on the right.
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Old January 1 2014, 05:48 PM   #947
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I'm about 25 minutes into the Art Department feature and man this is some boring stuff. They're not even talking about TNG. At least with the writers room you had personalities and the stories they told were interesting and funny. Not only that, but they provided examples. With these guys I'm not sure if I'm really interested in anything they've brought up so far, and it's something that seems to be better fit on the DS9 Blu Rays.

I'll finish it, but man we really needed features that were like Seasons 1 and 2. What was the highlights, media and fanwise of Season 4? Were there news stories or features on ET that focused on the series? Hell, I would have taken off the arts thing and put on Klingon Empire on BOTH discs (Hey they did that with the trailers). I'm not going to see that feature and it's not being posted on Youtube, but for some reason I feel like that feature is a lot better than listening to the Arts Department.
Sorry to be so late to the party, but I finally watched the art department feature a few days ago. I did manage to make it to the end, and there were a few good stories. But, yes, they needed a moderator to keep them on track. Too much time was spent giving each other compliments and talking about DS9.
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Old January 2 2014, 03:20 PM   #948
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Agreed, I kind of get the impression that Doug Drexler was meant to be there as the moderator, given he did the intro and ending IIRC and he was a makeup artist during TNG, not in the art department. He didn't move to the art department until DS9, which I think is where the problem lies.

The other departmental roundtables have had well known fans, specializing in that particular type of work, moderate them (Seth McFarlane for the writers, Jeff Bond for music), which I think is what they were trying to do with Drexler, but the difference was the he worked with them on DS9, so he steered the discussion to what he was familiar with.
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Old January 2 2014, 08:33 PM   #949
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Agreed, I kind of get the impression that Doug Drexler was meant to be there as the moderator, given he did the intro and ending IIRC and he was a makeup artist during TNG, not in the art department. He didn't move to the art department until DS9, which I think is where the problem lies.

The other departmental roundtables have had well known fans, specializing in that particular type of work, moderate them (Seth McFarlane for the writers, Jeff Bond for music), which I think is what they were trying to do with Drexler, but the difference was the he worked with them on DS9, so he steered the discussion to what he was familiar with.
Yes, Drexler did seem to be moderating a bit, and looking at the camera for some reason, and he did host it in his house.

I wonder if the folks involved had stronger memories of their DS9 experiences because they had more of a hand in its development? If Andy Probert could have participated in the Art Dept session, he might have had more memories of TNG's development.
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Old January 2 2014, 08:48 PM   #950
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I wonder if the folks involved had stronger memories of their DS9 experiences because they had more of a hand in its development? If Andy Probert could have participated in the Art Dept session, he might have had more memories of TNG's development.
That may be the case, but I personally don't think that was the issue. I think it was just a matter of the moderator not really doing his job, which is to keep the discussion on topic and to provide talking points if their's a lull in the conversation. As much as I appreciate Doug Drexler's work (I'm a huge fan of his blog and enjoy learning some of the vast array of knowledge he holds), he seemed to lead the conversation off-topic more than anyone else.

I just watched the composer round table last night and Bond was able to do a great job of getting the composers to talk about TNG in a broad sense and specifically about some of each composer's best work in the series, while still allowing them some breathing room to talk about the other series' to give a natural fluidity to the conversation without derailing the subject.

While we're on the subject, was there any word as to why Probert wasn't part of the round table?
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Old February 5 2014, 06:58 PM   #951
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Some interesting oversights/changes in "Brothers" were pointed out in this article on EAS:

http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/ob...s/brothers.htm

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Old February 5 2014, 07:02 PM   #952
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Some interesting oversights/changes in "Brothers" were pointed out in this article on EAS:

http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/ob...s/brothers.htm
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Old February 5 2014, 07:04 PM   #953
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Old February 6 2014, 08:20 AM   #954
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That article shows how much care and attention went into the show back in the nineties. I don't think we can be too harsh on CBS for the small errors here though - I certainly didn't notice them!

And it's lovely to see that Data bequethed so much of his dead father's gear to the O'Brien's.
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Old February 7 2014, 01:32 AM   #955
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Some interesting oversights/changes in "Brothers" were pointed out in this article on EAS:

http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/ob...s/brothers.htm
CBS-D should get Bernd Schneider to check each episode before it's pressed to disc.
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Old February 7 2014, 01:53 AM   #956
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Some interesting oversights/changes in "Brothers" were pointed out in this article on EAS:

http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/ob...s/brothers.htm
CBS-D should get Bernd Schneider to check each episode before it's pressed to disc.
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Old February 7 2014, 06:21 AM   #957
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Here are observations on "Suddenly human":

http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/ob...denlyhuman.htm

My favorite: The script lying on the sickbay table... ;-)
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Old February 7 2014, 04:02 PM   #958
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CBS-D should get Bernd Schneider to check each episode [i wrote:

before[/i] it's pressed to disc.
Just no.
Care to expand?
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Old February 14 2014, 02:33 PM   #959
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Here's the "Remember me" observations article - feedback always welcome.

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Old February 14 2014, 02:43 PM   #960
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Here's the "Remember me" observations article - feedback always welcome.

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Here's the link: "Remember Me" Observations

I, for one, thoroughly enjoy these observation articles. I look forward to every time a new one is posted. I love seeing the enhancements, changes, and yes, even the goofs, that appear in the remastered versions of these episodes.

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