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Old December 6 2013, 06:47 AM   #16
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Re: Did McCoy also graduate in 3 years?

Perhaps McCoy didn't need to complete a full course load at the Academy at all.

IRL, military doctors don't go to the service academies, but receive commissions at - I think - the O-3 level. (For instance, my dad served in the Army Medical Corps, but didn't go to West Point; he was commissioned directly as a Captain when he joined.) Perhaps something similar applies to Starfleet doctors.

True, we see McCoy attending classes and taking the Kobayashi Maru test with Kirk, but that doesn't mean McCoy has to complete a full curriculum like Kirk is doing.
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Old December 6 2013, 07:38 AM   #17
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Re: Did McCoy also graduate in 3 years?

I assume McCoy was involved in some sort of officer's training course and possibly learning more about specifics of "space medicine".
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Old December 6 2013, 08:12 AM   #18
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Re: Did McCoy also graduate in 3 years?

Just what WAS a doctor doing operating a bridge console in the Kobayashi Maru test anyway?
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Old December 6 2013, 10:28 AM   #19
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Re: Did McCoy also graduate in 3 years?

Actually what does a Doctor need to do in the Academy for 3 or 4 years.

In my country in some cases officers get their degrees in the Academy. McCoy obviously already has his. McCoy in TOS didn't seem to know much about non-human medicine. He had to pick that up on the fly it seemed. So I don't think in TOS they were teaching Doctors much about Space Medicine in the Academy so I'm thinking 3 years is plenty for McCoy.
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Old December 6 2013, 10:44 AM   #20
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Re: Did McCoy also graduate in 3 years?

Perhaps at Starfleet Academy they get up to scratch on alien biology? Being a citizen of Earth, perhaps McCoy was only qualified to work on Humans.
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Old December 6 2013, 06:35 PM   #21
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Re: Did McCoy also graduate in 3 years?

McCoy is also supposed to be 7-10 years older than Kirk, so I would think that his previous medical practise and work experience would earn him some credit.
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Old December 6 2013, 06:55 PM   #22
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Maybe that's why they originally wanted Matt Damon as Kirk.
I thought that was just me.
I remember reading (thought it was here, too) that Damon got a meeting with Abrams early on and was told he was too old for the Kirk they were doing.
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Old December 6 2013, 10:41 PM   #23
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Re: Did McCoy also graduate in 3 years?

Quoting from an article which was linked here back in 2007:
However, he says while not ruling out a fourth film for the [Bourne] franchise, it's about as likely as industry rumours that he will play a young Captain Kirk in a new Star Trek film being true.

"I actually finally called JJ Abrams, who's directing (the new Star Trek film) and said 'Dude, what going on?' He's like, 'You're way too ... old, you're like 15 years too old to play Captain Kirk in this movie."
Much later on, there was another article saying that Damon had been approached for the role of George Kirk.
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Old December 6 2013, 11:58 PM   #24
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Re: Did McCoy also graduate in 3 years?

Didn't Bones, Kirk, and Uhura enter Starfleet Academy at the same time? They all got to where the wanted in three years.
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Old December 7 2013, 01:06 AM   #25
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Didn't Bones, Kirk, and Uhura enter Starfleet Academy at the same time? They all got to where the wanted in three years.
Uhura was already a cadet, hence the uniform in the bar scene. Probably a first year or second year cadet.
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Old December 7 2013, 04:00 AM   #26
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Kirk boasted that he would complete the Academy in three years. It seems that McCoy also completed the Academy in 3 years. We see him on the shuttle as a new recruit in Trek09 and he also goes on the mission to Vulcan where he is promoted to Chief Medical officer.
They all did. ;P
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Old December 7 2013, 09:47 PM   #27
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Didn't Bones, Kirk, and Uhura enter Starfleet Academy at the same time? They all got to where the wanted in three years.
Uhura was already a cadet, hence the uniform in the bar scene. Probably a first year or second year cadet.
Pike tells Kirk:
Riverside shipyard. Shuttle for new recruits leaves tomorrow - 08:00.
What I took from that was they were all new recuits (if Hendorff was on that ship, he too would have graduated in three years) and your simply assigned a uniform before shipping out.
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Old December 7 2013, 11:10 PM   #28
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Re: Did McCoy also graduate in 3 years?

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Didn't Bones, Kirk, and Uhura enter Starfleet Academy at the same time? They all got to where the wanted in three years.
Uhura was already a cadet, hence the uniform in the bar scene. Probably a first year or second year cadet.
Pike tells Kirk:
Riverside shipyard. Shuttle for new recruits leaves tomorrow - 08:00.
What I took from that was they were all new recuits (if Hendorff was on that ship, he too would have graduated in three years) and your simply assigned a uniform before shipping out.
I took that to mean the new recruits from that area (McCoy, Kirk and whoever) needed to be on the shuttle. Uhura, Hendorff and the rest are just cadets visiting the shipyard. They seemed pretty chummy and insular (Cupcake calls Kirk a townie) for a group of people who just met. They're also very "snap to it" when Pike shows up, which to me indicates some training and discipline.,
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Old December 9 2013, 09:15 PM   #29
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Re: Did McCoy also graduate in 3 years?

according to the star trek app that was released and the bios on those apps, Bones, Carol, Uhura, Kirk, Chekov and Sulu all graduated in 2258. Spock and Scotty were all commissioned officers.
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Old December 9 2013, 10:38 PM   #30
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Re: Did McCoy also graduate in 3 years?

I know in the Royal Navy Officer Cadets start of with the ranks of either midshipman (USN ensign) or sub lieutenant (USN lieutenant junior grade) and sometimes lieutenant, however I think that is only for surgeons.
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