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Old December 6 2013, 04:44 PM   #916
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Not nonsense. Lizzy and Mika's father extracted a promise from Carol. She said she would look after them and protect them. Carol "failed" Sophia. She comes across Lizzy, whom she castigated as "weak" who has done this deed and Carol is no fool. She knows how the group will likely react. She failed one daughter. She feels she can't fail again with her new surrogate child, to whose father she made a solemn promise. Her commitment to her new daughter overrides her self imposed mission to safeguard the other kids.

Psychologically, I could see it. TPTB may not go that route, but it's not so implausible. I still found Daryl's reaction most interesting. Him wanting to get Tyrese's reaction immediately to see how they could deal with the situation--and he didn't entirely buy it. He thought something else might have spurred the situation. All I know is, Carol simply can't be gone for good. There's too much story.
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Old December 6 2013, 04:44 PM   #917
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HA! I like the second pic better. Oh yeah, Danai Gurai and Norman Reedus posing on the motorcycle together will get some folks worked up into a frenzy. You notice Reedus isn't the interested looking one in either photo.
Hey-- found this photo from the Cool Spoilers blog to complete the "love triangle" (or i guess dismissing the love of another shots)


Actually, I didn't find Daryl's reaction "stone cold." He was like, let's deal with this and "let's find out" what Tyrese will think. He didn't immediately believe Rick's words, either. Then the attack happened and the whole reaction process to what Rick had done was short circuited. Dammit. Though I suppose it's all about eventual payoff. I find it difficult to believe that Melissa McBride is gone for good.
Yeah..it felt like they addressed because they knew they had to (remembering the complaints about waiting for Sophia), and we'll get something bigger next half
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Old December 6 2013, 04:59 PM   #918
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Not nonsense. Lizzy and Mika's father extracted a promise from Carol. She said she would look after them and protect them. Carol "failed" Sophia. She comes across Lizzy, whom she castigated as "weak" who has done this deed and Carol is no fool. She knows how the group will likely react. She failed one daughter. She feels she can't fail again with her new surrogate child, to whose father she made a solemn promise. Her commitment to her new daughter overrides her self imposed mission to safeguard the other kids.

Psychologically, I could see it. TPTB may not go that route, but it's not so implausible. I still found Daryl's reaction most interesting. Him wanting to get Tyrese's reaction immediately to see how they could deal with the situation--and he didn't entirely buy it. He thought something else might have spurred the situation. All I know is, Carol simply can't be gone for good. There's too much story.
The group isn't going to exile or execute a 12 year old girl. If she was indeed the murderer, then all Carol accomplished was removing herself from the group and endangering them all both from her lack of being there to "do what needs to be done" and not being there to guide Lizzie. As it is she can't protect them which makes her promise still broken. Carol is far too practical to not see that.
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Old December 6 2013, 07:04 PM   #919
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The group isn't going to exile or execute a 12 year old girl.
The group may not...but you're forgetting that the group is made up of individuals. And in the source material, those individuals do some pretty interesting things.
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Old December 6 2013, 07:46 PM   #920
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And that might be an interesting story to see play out. A lot more interesting and true-to-character than Carol walking away with the knowledge that she is leaving all these people she cared about with a bomb ticking away in their midst.
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Old December 6 2013, 08:39 PM   #921
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Love the picture of Michonne and Daryl on the bike. The actress who plays Michonne has a great smile to her in that picture. In both picture Reedus does the "Blue Steel" look very well.

Of course I also feel like carol might be covering for Lizzy. Can't wait for the second half of the season!
I don't get why people think Lizzy was the one who killed Karen and David. We know she's got an odd view on the Walkers, but she's treated them more like pets or still "somewhat people" than anything else. It's a huge leap to go from that to savagely killing two innocent people and then burning their bodies. (Or just killing them, if we're to assume Carol is the one that burned them.)

I'm also sort of leaning on Bob being the one who was feeding the Walkers at the fence and did the science experiment Tyrese found at the beginning of this last episode.

But I think all Lizzie is "guilty" of is treating the Walkers like pets, I really doubt she was the one who killed Karen and David it's just a HUGE leap to get there from calling the Walkers by their name.
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Old December 6 2013, 09:38 PM   #922
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I didn't say "I think", I said "might be". There's a difference.
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Old December 7 2013, 06:13 AM   #923
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Just saw the repeat...Judith was last seen with the kids...and those kids seemed pretty well armed...now, when they saved Tyrese we didn't see the carrier or Judith...was Tyrese shot?

I imagine after they rescued him they went to get the baby.

Maybe the blood was from a Woodbury 2.0 person who saw the carrier (after it was ditched for being heavy), and bled on it...then ran away when seeing Walkers.
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Old December 7 2013, 11:30 AM   #924
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The blood is definitely a red herring-- no pun intended.

And, Holy Toledo, Michonne is adorable when she smiles.
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Old December 7 2013, 03:57 PM   #925
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^I don't know. Depending on how long the show continues, they're going to loose the baby one way or another and I can't see them killing her on-screen. It may well be a red herring though since this is more or less when the baby died in the comics and they might play with that expectations.
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Old December 7 2013, 04:14 PM   #926
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Just saw the thread about Low Winter Sun's cancellation over in TV & Media. Hopefully this gives TWD the opportunity to bring back Morgan!
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Old December 7 2013, 05:38 PM   #927
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I don't get why people think Lizzy was the one who killed Karen and David. We know she's got an odd view on the Walkers, but she's treated them more like pets or still "somewhat people" than anything else. It's a huge leap to go from that to savagely killing two innocent people and then burning their bodies. (Or just killing them, if we're to assume Carol is the one that burned them.)

Dude, she shot Alisha in the head! It's not much a leap at all.
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Old December 7 2013, 05:46 PM   #928
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The blood is definitely a red herring-- no pun intended.
Yeah, I agree. They're capitalizing on the expectations of the fans who read the comics and thought Judith would die during this confrontation with the Governor.

While I don't think they actually would have shown the baby being shot on the show, I do think if they were going to kill her off it would be in a more significant scene than an off-camera death that is only hinted at with blood. They'd show whoever was holding her (probably Beth) get blown away with the baby in her arms and have Rick and Carl have to process that before being hastily forced to leave due to all the walkers coming in to the prison.
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Old December 7 2013, 07:26 PM   #929
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They should have shown Judith in the carrier as a little baby 'walker' (drooler).
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Old December 7 2013, 08:29 PM   #930
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I think the brrech in the tank could have stopped the hand grenade--sharper explosive, but less charge. Now if the breech was open, the turret might have been blown off...

It was odd to see how power flowed naturally to the governor--but the comic's had a nice blurb from Michonne about how what she was going to do to him scared her. I wanted to hear that line.
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