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Old December 6 2013, 03:22 AM   #16
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Re: X-Men: Apocalypse announced for May 2016

Age of Apocalypse is a terrible story to start with, and there's no guarantee that they will, it just comes to the question of whether they want to do back to back time travel stories.

Apocalypse's origin involves Kang, the Fantastic Four, Doctor Strange, the West Coast Avengers and the celestials... Which is just a massive amount of copywrites fornicating with each other.
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Old December 6 2013, 03:31 AM   #17
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I'd imagine they're scheduling the shoot in such a way that if DOFP flat-out bombs, they'll be able to cancel production and only really eat the pre-production costs - and said pre-production is an investment any studio'd be crazy not to make under the circumstances. So, as long as they're prepping, why not put on a confident face and spark fans' interest?
They'd only have to eat development costs if they cancelled it since a May 2016 release would only need to start pre-production in the second half of 2014 for a 2015 production start.
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Old December 6 2013, 03:35 AM   #18
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I'd rather they didn't go into AoA immediately tbh... too much timey-wimeyness right after DoFP. X-Men Evolution did a pretty good and straightforward Apocalypse story I feel like.
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Old December 6 2013, 03:55 AM   #19
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I'd rather they didn't go into AoA immediately tbh.
They've said nothing about it being Age of Apocalypse, so I wouldn't worry just yet.

And even if it is, it may be that the events of DoFP cause the AoA. It could be like BTTF2 and 3, where all the time travel mostly happens in 2, and 3 is primarily about setting everything right again.
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Old December 6 2013, 04:20 AM   #20
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For what it's worth, the first-season arc of the Wolverine and the X-Men animated series was based on "Days of Future Past," and the cliffhanger set up a version of the Age of Apocalypse storyline for the second season that was never made. The setup was that they prevented one dystopian future but another took its place. (Which was pretty much the wrapup of every time-travel episode of the '90s animated series too.)
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Old December 6 2013, 04:34 AM   #21
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Re: X-Men: Apocalypse announced for May 2016

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Age of Apocalypse is a terrible story to start with, and there's no guarantee that they will, it just comes to the question of whether they want to do back to back time travel stories.

Apocalypse's origin involves Kang, the Fantastic Four, Doctor Strange, the West Coast Avengers and the celestials... Which is just a massive amount of copywrites fornicating with each other.
I agree that doing AoA wouldn't make much sense, especially not after a movie involving time travel and alternate realities in the first place. (I also think the AoA storyline is overrated and mostly gets a pass for a) the cool factor and b) Blink.)

But Apocalypse's origin doesn't have to involve any of the wankery his comic origin offers. Just have him be an ancient, really powerful mutant who wants to ignite a war not just between humans and mutants, but mutants and mutants, until only the strongest are left. In fact, he could be the big bad pulling the strings in DoFP, which lets that movie set up the next one.
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Old December 6 2013, 04:35 AM   #22
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Quitter.

There is no reason to believe that season two isn't moments away from being shipped.

This is the first ten minutes of the movie...

Ozymandias is narrating, and carving the legend into stone... Apocalypses Horse Men attack. maybe not the X-Men outright at first, but eventually you begin to wonder who these Horse men are. Obviously Death is Angel, that's just about impossible not to get immediately...

But what about Cyclops?

He was a Horseman.. Famine I believe.

But we are figuring out that the X-men are now Horsemen and they work for Some guy who thinks hes...

Tap Mr Sinister, which taps Madelyne Pryor.

Oooo.
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Old December 6 2013, 04:42 AM   #23
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I agree that doing AoA wouldn't make much sense, especially not after a movie involving time travel and alternate realities in the first place. (I also think the AoA storyline is overrated and mostly gets a pass for a) the cool factor and b) Blink.)

But Apocalypse's origin doesn't have to involve any of the wankery his comic origin offers. Just have him be an ancient, really powerful mutant who wants to ignite a war not just between humans and mutants, but mutants and mutants, until only the strongest are left. In fact, he could be the big bad pulling the strings in DoFP, which lets that movie set up the next one.
before the credits start, Charles Darwin in an Argument with En Sabah Nur about God and creationism in a gentleman's club in the 1850s... En Sabah eventually breaks his arm and is heard to say "Survival of the fittest" as he walks away from the screaming wreck of a human.
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Old December 6 2013, 04:46 AM   #24
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Aaaaaaaaah!!! Apocalypse is my all time favorite X-Villain!!!

Thought somehow I doubt he's going to be a blue-lipped 5,000 year old External with Celestial armor and a skycraper sized spaceship...

I really doubt this is going to be AoA though. That is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too out there for the "realistic" movie world.

Maybe they'll adapt his first appearance @X-Factor #25 when he turns Angel into Archangel the Horseman of Death.
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Old December 6 2013, 05:02 AM   #25
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For what it's worth, the first-season arc of the Wolverine and the X-Men animated series was based on "Days of Future Past," and the cliffhanger set up a version of the Age of Apocalypse storyline for the second season that was never made. The setup was that they prevented one dystopian future but another took its place. (Which was pretty much the wrapup of every time-travel episode of the '90s animated series too.)
Didn't the 90s cartoon also have Apocalypse connected to the events of DOFP? I could the new movie build off the events of DOFP, perhaps inspired by either cartoon series.
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For what it's worth, the first-season arc of the Wolverine and the X-Men animated series was based on "Days of Future Past," and the cliffhanger set up a version of the Age of Apocalypse storyline for the second season that was never made. The setup was that they prevented one dystopian future but another took its place. (Which was pretty much the wrapup of every time-travel episode of the '90s animated series too.)
Didn't the 90s cartoon also have Apocalypse connected to the events of DOFP? I could the new movie build off the events of DOFP, perhaps inspired by either cartoon series.
That's right, Bishop saved the X-Men from the Sentinels but upon returning to the future discovered there was a new Virus which was killing mutants, the virus had been created by Apocalypse. It wouldn't surprised me if DOFP lead into this somehow, even with an after credits scene. Singer seems to be a bit influenced by that 90s cartoon.
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Old December 6 2013, 05:07 AM   #27
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Didn't the 90s cartoon also have Apocalypse connected to the events of DOFP?
No, but their version of DoFP introduced Bishop, and Bishop's second appearance was in a different time-travel story that did involve Apocalypse (and Cable). That's probably what you're thinking of.
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Re: X-Men: Apocalypse announced for May 2016

Well, I could go for film adaptations of the The Adventures of Cyclops & Phoenix and The Further Adventures of Cyclops & Phoenix. I'd love an Age of Apocalypse film - I vaguely remember Wizard: The Guide to Comics coming up with dream casting for an AoA film many years ago.

I remember someone reporting a long time ago that Singer had plans for the franchise. I wonder if he could be creating a new trilogy with a storyline that will play out over multiple films. I also wonder if it makes my original assumption wrong, that the time traveling of DoFP will change history (and what was shown in the first three films).

The possibilities are exciting.
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that would be cool...

#1 Days of Future Past
#2 introducing Apocalypse
#3 Age of Apocalypse
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Didn't the 90s cartoon also have Apocalypse connected to the events of DOFP?
No, but their version of DoFP introduced Bishop, and Bishop's second appearance was in a different time-travel story that did involve Apocalypse (and Cable). That's probably what you're thinking of.
I thought Mysique was working for Apocalypse when she assassinated Senator Kelly?

BTW, do we think it'll be called X-Men: Apocalypse or X-Men: Age of Apocalypse? The Age thing might have a bit of confusion with Avengers: Age of Ultron, but they're several years apart so that might not matter at all.
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