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View Poll Results: Rate Death in Winter
Outstanding 0 0%
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Average 11 32.35%
Below Average 10 29.41%
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Old December 6 2013, 07:39 AM   #16
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Re: TNG: Death in Winter by Michael Jan Friedman Review Thread (Spoile

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Actually, it's my fave post-Nemesis book. I grew thoroughly sick of the heavy dependence on the Borg (Not all fans are obsessed by these cyborg bogey-men! They've been so overused), and so this one stands out as a favourite. Friedman always had such a good handle on the characters.
I feel the need to point out that there's at least one other post-Nemesis book that is Borg-free.......... *cough*
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Old December 6 2013, 08:05 AM   #17
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Actually, it's my fave post-Nemesis book. I grew thoroughly sick of the heavy dependence on the Borg (Not all fans are obsessed by these cyborg bogey-men! They've been so overused), and so this one stands out as a favourite. Friedman always had such a good handle on the characters.
I feel the need to point out that there's at least one other post-Nemesis book that is Borg-free.......... *cough*
It's the absurdity that makes it a worthwhile read
But then,that's the point is it not?
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Old January 4 2014, 03:50 PM   #18
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Well, I suppose that book had to be written, if only to get all that Picard/Crusher stuff in order and so we can move on to more relevant stories. If this was the only TNG relaunch book I had read I would probably say, it's alright. But with Resistance and Q&A two outstanding books followed, so it just pales in comparison.
But I like Borg stories and I love the Q, so you can probably have an entirely different viewpoint if you don't.
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Old January 4 2014, 05:12 PM   #19
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The only thing I didn't care for about Death in Winter was the Geordi/Worf subplot. It was entirely pointless and entirely out of character. I imagine as long standing high ranking Starfleet officials they'd be used to crew members going on classified missions and wouldn't feel the need to disobey direct orders to find out what was going on. Plus in the end, it didn't even come to anything.
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Old January 6 2014, 04:42 PM   #20
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Actually, it's my fave post-Nemesis book. I grew thoroughly sick of the heavy dependence on the Borg (Not all fans are obsessed by these cyborg bogey-men! They've been so overused), and so this one stands out as a favourite. Friedman always had such a good handle on the characters.
I feel the need to point out that there's at least one other post-Nemesis book that is Borg-free.......... *cough*
Whoops, of course, how could I forget - "Q&A" was also pretty fun!
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Old January 6 2014, 09:14 PM   #21
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I don't remember it in details but I remember that I liked it. I remember also that I regretted that I didn't read the Stargazer books and Reunion before, because I didn't understood all the references.
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Old May 12 2015, 12:40 AM   #22
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I finished this book about two weeks ago.

A fairly average story. The Stargazer crew cameos were nice to have, but didn't add much fuel to the larger story. I like the opening scenes that explained how Picard's genetic material ended up in Romulan hands for the Nemesis film, but the "repercussions" from that film were handled much better in the Titan series launch than here.

The Beverly/Jean-Luc romance was rather clumsy and felt a tad out-of-character during much of its resolution. I suppose I was just expecting more steak for all of the sizzle of the build-up. Friedman did a satisfactory job of summarizing their long history but failed to offer a fitting or deserved conclusion.

I should also echo other posts in this thread with the completely unnecessary Worf/Geordi "B" story. They literally went nowhere with their scheme.

[Death in Winter Drinking Game: take a drink every time the word "obviously" is used, down a shot every time you read the word "unfortunately." Guaranteed intoxication by page 50.]

I'm now on to Resistance by J. M. Dillard.
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Old May 12 2015, 09:54 AM   #23
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I didnīt vote outstanding, but above avarage. I have even read it twice, both in English and German. The German cover is different, more colorful.

http://www.cross-cult.de/titel/roman...im-winter.html

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Old May 12 2015, 11:07 AM   #24
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I didnīt vote outstanding, but above avarage. I have even read it twice, both in English and German. The German cover is different, more colorful.

http://www.cross-cult.de/titel/roman...im-winter.html

Wasn't it on the E-E though, not the E-D.
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Old May 12 2015, 01:43 PM   #25
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I didnīt vote outstanding, but above avarage. I have even read it twice, both in English and German. The German cover is different, more colorful.

http://www.cross-cult.de/titel/roman...im-winter.html

Wasn't it on the E-E though, not the E-D.
????????
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Old May 12 2015, 03:02 PM   #26
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I didnīt vote outstanding, but above avarage. I have even read it twice, both in English and German. The German cover is different, more colorful.

http://www.cross-cult.de/titel/roman...im-winter.html

Wasn't it on the E-E though, not the E-D.
????????
Probably a reference to Picard's TV-era uniform on that cover.
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Old May 12 2015, 04:13 PM   #27
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Wasn't it on the E-E though, not the E-D.
????????
Probably a reference to Picard's TV-era uniform on that cover.
Sorry, I canīt see any TV-era uniforms, neither on Beverly, nor on Picard. The uniforms are hardly recognizable.
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Old May 12 2015, 04:23 PM   #28
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^You can tell it's a TV-era uniform by the collar -- a black Mandarin collar with red edging, of a piece with the black material of the shoulders. The movie-era version would have a solid red, straight-topped collar that was part of an undershirt worn beneath a separate outer tunic with gray shoulders.
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Old May 12 2015, 04:44 PM   #29
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What I love about the book is that it put Picard and Chrusher together, which I had wanted for years. It is an average book, but the resulting story lines coming out of the book were exciting for me.
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Old May 12 2015, 05:42 PM   #30
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^You can tell it's a TV-era uniform by the collar -- a black Mandarin collar with red edging, of a piece with the black material of the shoulders. The movie-era version would have a solid red, straight-topped collar that was part of an undershirt worn beneath a separate outer tunic with gray shoulders.

If you say so. You know what they say about Vorta: good hearing, weak eyesight.

I have also found another design of that novel with Picard wearing something else. I donīt know which of the drafts they finally took, though. I donīt have my copy with me.

http://www.startrekromane.de/romane/...im_winter.html
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