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Old December 5 2013, 05:49 PM   #121
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^Maybe they would also like to explain the mechanics of how any woman can fight with breasts as big as WW and Power Girl. In comics it's pure fantasy. Wonder Woman can be drawn and shown fighting with C-E cups, and people rarely question how she is able to.
It's called a sports bra. Serena Williams is a very ample-chested, curvaceous woman, but she's also one of the most powerful, fast, and agile athletes in tennis (and not just women's tennis). So no, it's not pure fantasy. Ample breasts can be an encumbrance, but that encumbrance can be overcome with sufficient athleticism and the right athletic wear. (I mean, think about it. There's a free-swinging portion of the male anatomy that can be quite awkward if it's not properly contained and protected, but that hasn't kept men from succeeding athletically, because they devised garments and equipment that could compensate for the problem.)

Although, granted, it's hard to see how Diana's bustier could work effectively as a sports bra.
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Old December 5 2013, 05:50 PM   #122
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You seem to have the misconception that putting on muscle means automatically being overly muscular.
Yeah, this. You say "Muscle" and every nerd instantly thinks of bulky bodybuilding monsters which is... just sad.
Yes. I'm think more along the lines of track and field types who do a lot running, jumping, throwing, etc.
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Old December 5 2013, 05:58 PM   #123
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She doesn't need... Oh ffS!

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Old December 5 2013, 06:02 PM   #124
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^Maybe they would also like to explain the mechanics of how any woman can fight with breasts as big as WW and Power Girl. In comics it's pure fantasy. Wonder Woman can be drawn and shown fighting with C-E cups, and people rarely question how she is able to.
Well, being a Kryptonian on Earth, Power Girl needs a physics-based explanation for how she carries herself as much as Superman does for flying, X-ray vision, super-strength, etc.
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Old December 5 2013, 06:16 PM   #125
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I feel like this thread as turned into a Babe of the Week thread. Ick.
A thread about Wonder Woman will deteriorate into a minute dissection of female flesh worthy of a butcher shop in a span of time inversely proportionate to the body-mass index of whatever actress has been cast or is in talks to play her.
Pretty much. Of course, pretty much true of any female character in a genre movie, TV show, comic, etc.

I'm more concerned how Snyder is going to use the character than what this actress, who has just been cast, looks like now....without training, without costume, without makeup, etc, etc.

Snyder doesn't really have the best track record of creating three dimensional female characters.... three dimensional fetishized female objects, that's more in his wheel house.
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Old December 5 2013, 07:03 PM   #126
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You don't have to worry about Gal getting in fighting shape for the role. Just look at what Antje Traue/ Faora had to go through preparing for Man Of Steel
Yeah that's actually a good comparison. Antje Traue doesn't look particularly big and strong in real life either, but they managed to make her look intimidating as hell in MOS (even without the armor).

And let's not forget freakin Milla Jovovich in the Resident Evil movies, or Kate Beckinsale in the Underworld movies. If fans can accept a couple of thin and delicate women like that kicking ass in their movies (and going up against all manner of huge monsters and zombie creatures), then surely we should be able to accept Gadot kicking ass as WW.
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Old December 5 2013, 07:04 PM   #127
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Oh come on. Suckerpunch was an amazing character study.
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Old December 5 2013, 07:11 PM   #128
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Oh come on. Suckerpunch was an amazing character study.
I needed that.
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Old December 5 2013, 07:29 PM   #129
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Actors can change how powerful/not powerful they look without even gaining or losing weight; sometimes it's all in the performance. If this version of Wonder Woman doesn't work it'll have nothing to do with her physique and everything to do with the acting/writing/directing.
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Old December 5 2013, 08:04 PM   #130
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While the Fast and Furious movies aren't an acting showcase, Gal Gadot nevertheless showed decent acting chops and good screen presence in them. Gina Carano, on the other hand, after a pretty good performance in Haywire, albeit in a part with limited dialogue, was quite poor in Fast & Furious 6. I'm glad Gadot got the nod over Carano on that count. From what I've seen of them so far, Gadot and Jaimie Alexander have roughly similar acting chops, but Gadot has better screen presence in my opinion.
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Old December 5 2013, 08:30 PM   #131
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And let's not forget freakin Milla Jovovich in the Resident Evil movies, or Kate Beckinsale in the Underworld movies. If fans can accept a couple of thin and delicate women like that kicking ass in their movies (and going up against all manner of huge monsters and zombie creatures), then surely we should be able to accept Gadot kicking ass as WW.
Good point! And it's probably worth pointing out (again) that Lynda Carter didn't look like a body-builder or professional wrestler.
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Old December 5 2013, 08:32 PM   #132
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And let's not forget freakin Milla Jovovich in the Resident Evil movies, or Kate Beckinsale in the Underworld movies.
Both rendered superhuman by viral infections (RE now having multiple overlapping infections and UW having Selene the 3rd most powerful being on Earth) which leave their external appearance identical to the moment of infection no matter how powerful they become later. Selene and Alice were rather normal, average strength people before.

I do see what you mean though, the Amazonian genetic structure or tissue much greater in density and strength while giving the same outward appearance as someone several times inferior to their ability. Some mystical energy infusing them that leaves no external sign of that power.
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Old December 5 2013, 08:44 PM   #133
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And it's probably worth pointing out (again) that Lynda Carter didn't look like a body-builder or professional wrestler.
Why do people insist on bringing up body builders and pro wrestlers? A woman can be muscular and not look anything like that. You are taking the most extreme examples.
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Old December 5 2013, 08:49 PM   #134
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^^ So, magic? If they go with the gol... er, molded from clay origin, that makes it even more "likely."

It'll be interesting to see what direction they go with her assuming she's more than just a five-minute cameo. Straight-up Thor/Sif warrior-type (Thor's movies probably have made that more palatable)? "Ambassador of peace" from the Amazons?

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I'm not a big fan of body-builder Wonder Woman, but if they had gone with Gina Carano, the inspiration for Korra, I would have liked that. She's also Cavil's ex girlfriend.
Ah right, I knew there was a real-world inspiration there.

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Wonder Woman seems to be an object of fetish to a large slice of her fandom.
To be fair and without defending it, that's been there from the bginning.
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Old December 5 2013, 08:53 PM   #135
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And it's probably worth pointing out (again) that Lynda Carter didn't look like a body-builder or professional wrestler.
Why do people insist on bringing up body builders and pro wrestlers? A woman can be muscular and not look anything like that. You are taking the most extreme examples.
You are never getting to get someone who looks like the comics Wonder Woman - because like any other comics character, you'd be casting someone with an impossible waist and out of proportion breasts.
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