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Old December 5 2013, 11:13 AM   #91
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If my girlfriend saw me posting things like these about any woman, she would shit a brick, I'm sure. And my mom would wonder where she went wrong....
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Old December 5 2013, 11:28 AM   #92
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In case I wasn't clear, I wasn't referring to anything I'd posted.
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Old December 5 2013, 11:34 AM   #93
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I wonder what style of costume they will go for?

Will she have a tight latex costume like Silk Spectre from Snyder's Watchmen or will they use one out of the comics or an armor version resembling Faora.

Here are some costumes I like.

Traditional


Pants version from J. Michael Straczynski's short run back in 2011.


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The upcoming Justice League War movie costume




So many I like. Decisions, Decisions
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Old December 5 2013, 11:38 AM   #94
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Actresses are not women, or at least not women first, second, third or fourth.

There's no need to be as rude as beaker, but actors are paid, and at the top end of the spectrum paid very well to transform everything about themselves into sometimes something radically different.
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Old December 5 2013, 11:43 AM   #95
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I wonder what style of costume they will go for?

Will she have a tight latex costume like Silk Spectre from Snyder's Watchmen or will they use one out of the comics or an armor version resembling Faora.

Here are some costumes I like.

Traditional


Pants version from J. Michael Straczynski's short run back in 2011.


New 52



Armored Fan art version (artist page here http://nebezial.deviantart.com/


The upcoming Justice League War movie costume




So many I like. Decisions, Decisions
I'd bet some form of the pants costume... That said, you could also take not account the outfits from MoS as an idea of direction. Kevin Smith was shown a pic of Afleck in the batman suit by Snyder after some yahoo MoS q&a he moderated, and said its nothing like has been shown in the movies so far. He aid it was very much like a particular comic style, buy it was beeped/censored in the Hollywood Bable-on podcast so unless you were there you don't know specifics.
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Old December 5 2013, 11:49 AM   #96
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Or they could pick one of mine.
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Old December 5 2013, 11:57 AM   #97
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The Mirroball Man those are lovely =^_^=
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Old December 5 2013, 12:04 PM   #98
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Yikes. Horribly skinny, no boobs, tattooed, and only vaguely cute (but by no means beautiful).
don't hold back tell us what you really think...
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My friend Yasmine Petty is also a model. Funny how she does not have to do this.
First hit in a Google search on this name brought up this discussion on another forum, containing strong indicators that the same person goes by the name Jennifer Ryan in contexts that imply modelling is not their primary source of income. Which, that's cool, I'm not judging anyone... but I wouldn't go representing them as an example of professional fashion modelling.

Don't mean to bust your chops Christopher, but I want someone who looks like a woman playing Wonder Woman, not a stick figure.
Yasmine / Jennifer is quite beautiful and a triumph of self-creation, but it's fairly obvious that their "living doll" look is the product of implants and extensive surgery. It's more than a bit disturbing to see this described as being somehow definitive of what "looks like a woman." Because it isn't. And it certainly has little or nothing to do with how the character of Wonder Woman has been portrayed in comics.
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Old December 5 2013, 12:08 PM   #100
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Or they could pick one of mine.
Id love to see Gal in your hipster WW outfit.
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Old December 5 2013, 02:08 PM   #101
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To be fair, Christian Bale also looked pretty frail and weak when he was cast as Batman...



There's no reason why she couldn't put on some muscle for the role. Male superhero actors do it all the time.
Demi Moore and Linda Hamilton are two actresses who spring to mind.
In Bale's case, he lost a ton of weight for that role, so, losing the weight was probably tougher than putting it back on. A closer analogy would probably be Chris Hemsworth putting on the bulk for Thor
I just meant in the sense that it is not unheard of for female actors to change their physique for a role.

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Adding 15 kilos of muscle does not add "curves" to a woman. And again, which was my point, Wonder Woman is not and has almost never portrayed as a muscular female bodybuilder. I expect her to look fit and slightly athletic, just like she does in the comics.

I beg to differ. Weight training can add some very appealing curves to a woman, particularly in the glutes area. Weight training and putting muscle on does not automatically equal a bodybuilders physique.
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Old December 5 2013, 04:07 PM   #102
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Gal is a beautiful woman, but she's not Wonder Woman. Maybe if she gains about 30-pounds of muscle or something but, really, I just don't see it at all.
As it happens, 30 pounds of muscle is just what Christopher Reeve put on when he was cast as Superman. It worked pretty well for him.


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Adding 15 kilos of muscle does not add "curves" to a woman.
So now it comes out. "She's too skinny" is really just a euphemism for "Her boobs aren't big enough." I wondered if that might be what was really going on here.

Of course, women can change how curvaceous they are by adding or removing body fat, and models in our society are generally expected to minimize body fat. Looking at photos online of Ms. Gadot, she's clearly more curvaceous in some than in others. And a woman's apparent curvaceousness can be enhanced by costuming; Lucy Lawless's Xena costume made her seem considerably bustier than she actually is.

But it should go without saying, of course, that curvaceousness is not the most important attribute for Wonder Woman.


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Don't mean to bust your chops Christopher, but I want someone who looks like a woman playing Wonder Woman, not a stick figure.
Yasmine / Jennifer is quite beautiful and a triumph of self-creation, but it's fairly obvious that their "living doll" look is the product of implants and extensive surgery. It's more than a bit disturbing to see this described as being somehow definitive of what "looks like a woman." Because it isn't. And it certainly has little or nothing to do with how the character of Wonder Woman has been portrayed in comics.
Indeed. I overlooked that part of Duncan's post before, but I have to agree with you -- it's deeply disturbing and offensive to see someone claim that the only way to "look like a woman" is to have fake boobs and pronounced curves. That's not only staggeringly sexist but bizarrely insular, since any man who's actually interacted with real women to any significant extent must be aware that they come in a wide variety of shapes -- and that they don't need the approval of a man in order to qualify as real women. There are many different ways for women to be beautiful, and they're as much about what's on the inside as what's on the surface.
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Old December 5 2013, 04:17 PM   #103
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As it happens, 30 pounds of muscle is just what Christopher Reeve put on when he was cast as Superman. It worked pretty well for him.
And if that's what this woman does, then it might work out.

So now it comes out. "She's too skinny" is really just a euphemism for "Her boobs aren't big enough." I wondered if that might be what was really going on here.
Well, I wouldn't say that's what I was necessarily arguing but along those lines I'd "sort of" agree she just doesn't have WW's figure. In all of the pre-planning of Wonder Woman weren't many actresses looked over because it wasn't felt their physical size fit with WW's physique? Most depictions have Wonder Woman as a pretty built woman with, yes, curves.

I'm not say Gal doesn't have curves or isn't attractive. She does and is. She just, right now, doesn't have Wonder Woman's curves and physique.

When people were saying that the actress who plays Sif in the Thor movies should be WW there's a reason. She LOOKS like Wonder Woman because she's got some mass on her.

This could all still work out, Gadot, Affleck, having at least three superheroes in the same movie but, right now, ugh... It's looking like a half-assed JL movie.

Maybe someday Wonder Woman will get a her own movie, along with other JL/DC characters and we'll get a decent build up to a JL movie but, right now.... Ugh. Even setting aside the casting I don't think WB is doing this right. I remain guarded and mostly unexcited about this project.

Again, could be surprised and willing to give Affleck and Gadot the benefit of the doubt here but Affleck just on his Affleck-iness and Gadot (superficially on her physique right now) doesn't leave me too hopeful.
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"She's too skinny" is really just a euphemism for "Her boobs aren't big enough."
Actually, no, it isn't.
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Old December 5 2013, 04:58 PM   #105
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I'm of two minds on this. On the one hand, my initial reaction was along the "she's kind of petite for Diana, I was picturing somebody more... Korra-esque, really."

On the other hand, I was firmly in the "Jamie Alexander for WW based on Sif" crowd and as noted Gadot's built fairly similarly.

So in the end, looking forward to seeing what she can do with the role! As to the costume, put me down for a pants version.
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