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Star Trek Movies I-X Discuss the first ten big screen outings in this forum!

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Old December 1 2013, 02:41 AM   #46
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Re: Should Chapel Have Become a Doctor?

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It always seemed odd to me that Kirk assumed he'd be returning to command Enterprise after repairs were completed. In The Wrath of Khan, Enterprise is under the command of Spock and is just a training ship.
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When did he assume that?
I think he's talking about The Search for Spock. Kirk and Scotty assumed that Enterprise would be refitted after the damage she sustained due to the Reliant attacks. Admiral Morrow told them otherwise and refused Kirk's request that he be allowed to take the ship to Genesis to retrieve Spock.

The Enterprise was under Spock's command in TWOK because the vessel was undertaking a training cruise. Kirk assumed command once the ship went on actual duty due to the Regula I emergency.

It's my understanding- and Christopher detailed this in one of his novels- that the Enterprise was under Spock's command for training missions but that as Commandant of Starfleet Academy, Kirk used the vessel as his flagship when he was aboard or when the ship was assigned to regular missions; therefore, Kirk remained in command after Spock's death because Enterprise was still on active duty following the incident with Khan.

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Old December 1 2013, 12:57 PM   #47
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Re: Should Chapel Have Become a Doctor?

I don't know whether Christopher based his book on something "official" or if he just went off of his own bat, but I can tell you that this is not the tonality of what's in the actual STAR TREK II movie. It's very apparent and abundantly clear that Kirk is a visiting dignitary and that's it. He has no claim on this ship, other than usurping it from Spock, which he initially resists doing, until Spock steps down, voluntarily. This "Kirk was always in command, except on training cruises" spin doesn't really even fly.
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Old December 1 2013, 05:30 PM   #48
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This "Kirk was always in command, except on training cruises" spin doesn't really even fly.
As no one said that, I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. The Enterprise was assigned to Starfleet Academy, so Spock was its primary commanding officer. In the event that the vessel went on actual duty, Kirk assumed command- something that was clearly the exception rather than the rule.

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