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Old November 9 2013, 12:06 AM   #586
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Classic example is Kirk going into their new more sophisticated warp chamber with no radiation suit and kicking it to fix it allowing them to do a last minute 180 degrees in an atmosphere (but having just watched Dagger of the Mind - it's not much sillier than Helen crawling through the air conditioning to flip a switch to turn off the power in a high security hospital I guess...).
Classic example is Captain Spock having to go down to Engineering to fix the mains, wearing no radiation suit when they have twenty guys standing around already in partial radiation gear.

I could see someone who had just saw the latest movie and had no other exposure to Trek criticizing these things. But for long-term Trek fans, non-sense is the status quo and it seems kind of funny to be complaining about it now.
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Old November 9 2013, 12:42 AM   #587
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So what would be a possible ending to the Khitomer Conflict arc? Also it seems the tech of this comic verse is going to be decades more advance than it's prime verse counterpart.
That bridge (the technology) was crossed as soon as the Kelvin took scans of the Narada, hence why the Enterprise is so much more advanced then her prime reality counterpart.

I suspect that L'nar (the Romulan commander) will help Kirk out. Since he is obviously the alternate reality counterpart of the Romulan commander from "Balance of Terror", I suspect they will play off the "In a different reality, I could have called you friend," line from BoT. Just my suspicions.
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Old November 9 2013, 01:52 AM   #588
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All true but two wrongs don't make a right!
Bad Robot is the only fun target for complaints these days because complaining about Berman and Braga doesn't affect anything anymore.
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Old November 9 2013, 02:41 AM   #589
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Classic example is Kirk going into their new more sophisticated warp chamber with no radiation suit and kicking it to fix it allowing them to do a last minute 180 degrees in an atmosphere (but having just watched Dagger of the Mind - it's not much sillier than Helen crawling through the air conditioning to flip a switch to turn off the power in a high security hospital I guess...).
Classic example is Captain Spock having to go down to Engineering to fix the mains, wearing no radiation suit when they have twenty guys standing around already in partial radiation gear.

I could see someone who had just saw the latest movie and had no other exposure to Trek criticizing these things. But for long-term Trek fans, non-sense is the status quo and it seems kind of funny to be complaining about it now.
No, I've always thought it odd that engineers didn't have helmets for their radiation suits but I suppose from a cinematic perspective you want to see the actors' faces but at least the partial suits look better than the no suits of TNG through to NuTrek. Even TOS tended just to wear overalls.
However, my understanding of TWoK was that even with radiation suits on, a human would lose motor control too quickly to be any use (robotic drones anyone?) whereas Spock, even without a suit, believed he could do the task (not to mention that the decent engineer had just fallen unconscious and the others were inexperienced cadets).

That's a bit diffeent to NuTrek where there are not even any engineers (trainees or otherwise with or without suits) in the key affected section of the ship and the human goes in to kick the ship back into order with no suit.

They're both a bit silly, yes, but they are not qualitatively the same. TWoK did have some plausible excuses to frame the scene, NuTrek less so IMO. Not that there were not a number of other REALLY silly other moments in TWoK.
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Old November 9 2013, 03:59 AM   #590
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So what would be a possible ending to the Khitomer Conflict arc? Also it seems the tech of this comic verse is going to be decades more advance than it's prime verse counterpart.
That bridge (the technology) was crossed as soon as the Kelvin took scans of the Narada, hence why the Enterprise is so much more advanced then her prime reality counterpart.
I knew that already.

I was just wrote that because of the fact that the Klingons studying the Narada and the Romulans having the Narada's schematics has made their technology far more advance what the Federation has. Though Section 31 has their own ships with similar capabilities.

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Old November 9 2013, 05:38 PM   #591
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So what would be a possible ending to the Khitomer Conflict arc? Also it seems the tech of this comic verse is going to be decades more advance than it's prime verse counterpart.
That bridge (the technology) was crossed as soon as the Kelvin took scans of the Narada, hence why the Enterprise is so much more advanced then her prime reality counterpart.
I knew that already.

I was just wrote that because of the fact that the Klingons studying the Narada and the Romulans having the Narada's schematics has made their technology far more advance what the Federation has. Though Section 31 has their own ships with similar capabilities.
Which makes it feel like a front in the Temporal Cold War: no just one side, but all sides getting technology way beyond what they naturally developed. Maybe all sides will realize the possibility of mutual annihilation.
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Old November 30 2013, 12:37 AM   #592
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Does anyboby when Volume 6 will be published? According to Memory Alpha it's 2013-11-26 but it's not listed on Amazon although the date is downtime from our perspective now.
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Old November 30 2013, 12:59 AM   #593
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I got my copy of ST 6 from Amazon already, and the website shows it in stock. This is the US Amazon for what that's worth.
Is there a checklist somewhere of all the different mini series that IDW has done for Trek? I'm only just getting into collecting them. I think I have them all, but a definitive list to compare to would be nice.
I also got the Early Voyages omnibus that IDW put out collecting the Marvel series about Pike's crew. I really enjoyed it, and wondered if there was any plan to release any of the other Marvel comics Trek series? I know the older movie era comic Trek series has been released, but I've been wary of getting it due to the high number of negative reviews based on poor print reproduction quality.
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Old November 30 2013, 01:14 AM   #594
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with the exception of disappointing T'Pau's absence.
Since we don't know if T'Pau survived the canonical demise of Vulcan in the new timeline, the IDW writers may have been asked not to include her. You did get T'Pring. Maybe they wanted to feature both, but got one?
It was nice to see T'Pring but she is essentially a generic Vulcan who inevitably had to be cast in the role of 'love interest' or rather 'logic interest' in the context of Amok Time. T'Pau on the other hand is a legendary mature woman in a position of considerable power without being sexualised or linked to a male character at all.

We've had cameos from several admirals and commodores who survived the changes to the timeline. I thought initially that they were keeping T'Pau out of the comics because they wanted to use her in the sequel but that wasn't the case. It's just disheartening that one of the few female leaders in TOS is still absent after several Vulcan-centered stories and to date I've seen no story elements that might have benefitted from her dying off camera. Her absence is curious.
I thought T'Pring was really interesting in a fairly brief role. She's a woman with little power, as apparently is the fate of Vulcan women in marriage, but she takes what little power she has and works the hell out of it. The challenge before the wedding is her one chance to escape a marriage she doesn't want, and she lays out her plans so that no matter how things work out, she's going to get what she wants. Even Spock compliments her on her flawless logic, although I think you could still read a subtext of disapproval from him, which is delicious irony coming from Spock.
T'Pau would be interesting to use, but I can understand why the movie people may not want to let the comics use her first, wanting to keep their options open with her.
I do think the discussion of gender and diversity in the TOS/reboot/comics is interesting. I think that there should be room in the cast for Chapel and Rand. I'm only just started to collect the comic trades. Have the IDW comics included any gay characters? I'm still disappointed that the movies continued the franchise's "no homo" policy, at least as far as tv and movies go. The books have become more inclusive, and I really appreciate that, a lot. It's nice to have gay diversity in the novels even if we still can't get it onscreen. I'll be continuing to collect the comics either way, but yeah, I'd be pleased to have some inclusion in the comics too.
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Old November 30 2013, 01:55 AM   #595
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Is there a checklist somewhere of all the different mini series that IDW has done for Trek? I'm only just getting into collecting them. I think I have them all, but a definitive list to compare to would be nice.
Option #1:
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/IDW_Publishing

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http://www.startrekcomics.info/
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Old November 30 2013, 02:01 AM   #596
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Is there a checklist somewhere of all the different mini series that IDW has done for Trek?
The best reference for Star Trek comics is the Star Trek Comics Checklist, found here. It's a few months behind; it used to get updated regularly, but as with so many fannish endeavors, sometimes life gets in the way of prompt maintenance.

It's still awesome -- the only IDW title not listed is the currently-running Khan miniseries.
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Old November 30 2013, 02:36 AM   #597
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Does the person who runs it still post here? I know they used to.
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Old November 30 2013, 03:55 AM   #598
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Does anyboby when Volume 6 will be published? According to Memory Alpha it's 2013-11-26 but it's not listed on Amazon although the date is downtime from our perspective now.
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Anyone read the latest issue?

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