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Old November 28 2013, 01:17 AM   #16
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Re: Turnabout Intruder...then what?

I believe "Once Upon a Planet" and "Shore Leave II" are separate stories, albeit ones that revisit the same planet (from "Shore Leave").

Not 100% sure on that. At some point, though, I'll copy the "Shore Leave II" outline and we'll all know.
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Old November 28 2013, 01:22 AM   #17
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Does "Japan Triumphant" (I can't find anything via Google on it) sound like it might have been reworked into the Phase II story, "Tomorrow and the Stars"?

As a side note: I'd trade all the Berman-era series and the Abramsverse for those 13 Phase II episodes. Does that make me sick?
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Old November 28 2013, 01:32 AM   #18
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Hard to say.

I'm not sure an outline for that story ("Japan Triumphant") was even submitted, and I'm not that familiar with Star Trek: Phase II. I believe I have an outline indicating some post-season two story ideas which describes the episode idea further, but I'll have to wait until later in the week to find it.

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And, a Spock-less, Kirk-lite, TMP aesthetic (but with a lower budget) series run by a Roddenberry who had already begun to lose perspective? Nah, I'll take the Berman series and the Abrams films over that any day of the week.
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Old November 28 2013, 01:37 AM   #19
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Hard to say.

I'm not sure an outline for that story ("Japan Triumphant") was even submitted, and I'm not that familiar with Star Trek: Phase II. I believe I have an outline indicating some post-season two story ideas which describes the episode idea further, but I'll have to wait until later in the week to find it.
Thanks for the info and the hard work researching and answering these questions, Harvey!


And, a Spock-less, Kirk-lite, TMP aesthetic (but with a lower budget) series run by a Roddenberry who had already begun to lose perspective? Nah, I'll take the Berman series and the Abrams films over that any day of the week.
Honestly, I think it would have only been a matter of time before Nimoy showed up and him and Shatner became the center of the show.
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Old November 28 2013, 01:42 AM   #20
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I don't know about Nimoy. It took a major motion picture and Robert Wise's input (if I remember correctly) to get Paramount to settle the suit and bring Nimoy back into the fold.

I imagine that, without him, the series would probably have been lowly rated and quickly cancelled. But, of course, it's all speculation.
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I don't know about Nimoy. It took a major motion picture and Robert Wise's input (if I remember correctly) to get Paramount to settle the suit and bring Nimoy back into the fold.

I imagine that, without him, the series would probably have been lowly rated and quickly cancelled. But, of course, it's all speculation.
You're right, it's a speculation.

So here's my speculation: If it was highly rated, Nimoy would've campaigned to get back in. If it was low-rated, Paramount would've settled and tried to bring him back to jump-start the ratings.

They would've promoted the Hell out of Spock returning either way.
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Of course it would have been low rated. Paramount couldn't get enough stations signed on board to make it work as a serious competitor to the other networks.
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Was Shore Leave II what turned out as "Once Upon a Planet?"
I wonder. Maybe. As "Once Upon A Planet" played it there were a number of things that would have been a challenge for TOS to do. They couldn't have done a dragon. The talking/attacking playing cards couldn't have been done as seen, but maybe something else could have been worked out. They would have had to work around the hovering mechanical nursemaids as seen.
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