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Old November 27 2013, 06:25 AM   #256
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Might have been interesting if they had done a story where one of the lower deck officers-- Joe Carey, for example, had the writers realized he was still alive-- started bucking for Harry's job, and proved better at it in a crisis of the week situation. Closed door meetings with Janeway and Chakotay on whether to make Carey the Ops Officer, Tuvok perhaps as Kim's defender, and Harry and Garrett get something to do other than opening hailing frequencies.
Not a bad idea but I see Janeway & Tuvok teaming up against Harry, while Chakotay defended him instead.
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Old November 27 2013, 06:26 AM   #257
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You do remember that Carey worked under Picard on the Enterprise?

(Josh played unnamed lieutenant in TNG Justice)

He's fine with the idle of his career path.
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Old November 27 2013, 06:30 AM   #258
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Carey was just a hypothetical example, just to keep it from being someone we'd never seen before gunning for Kim's job.

And yeah, exodus, you're probably right. Chakotay would fight for Kim. Tuvok would be the one saying the other guy was the logical choice.
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Old November 27 2013, 06:33 AM   #259
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When I'm less tired I will covert you all to J/7.. as the fandom says, my mother ever looked at me like Janeway looks at 7
In one of my silly stories, I'm about to stick Janeway in the same room with a Henry Starling and Richard Nixon.

I'm not sure how the next 18 minutes are going to go.
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Old November 27 2013, 06:35 AM   #260
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Carey was just a hypothetical example, just to keep it from being someone we'd never seen before gunning for Kim's job.

And yeah, exodus, you're probably right. Chakotay would fight for Kim. Tuvok would be the one saying the other guy was the logical choice.
I like Tuvok but Vulcans can be dicks like that.
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Old November 27 2013, 07:13 AM   #261
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What would have been ironic (and entirely possible within the writers' room I suppose), is if Seven had been given some sort of official officer status by Janeway, rank of Lieutenant, and replaced Harry at Ops. Harry becomes Neelix's kitchen slave.
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Old November 27 2013, 07:17 AM   #262
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^At that point, I may care for Kim's mistreatment.
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Old November 27 2013, 07:32 AM   #263
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A two month catering degree and Kim could take the mess from Neelix and earn himself a gold pip.

Operations is not desirable, or someone would have taken it from Kim.
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Old November 27 2013, 08:51 AM   #264
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Maybe Harry didn't get promoted simply due to ambition. He was ambitious enough to keep asking for it, but not ambitious enough to prove he deserved it through job performance. Sort of like if someone constantly recommends himself for a moderator position on a forum site, he's not going to get it.
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Old November 27 2013, 08:56 AM   #265
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I can see him dropping hints to Janeway in a "you know what would be a really good idea!" way..
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Old November 27 2013, 03:09 PM   #266
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Is there a rank between ensign and lieutenant? Ensign second grade? He should have gotten that.
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Old November 27 2013, 03:12 PM   #267
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Is there a rank between ensign and lieutenant? Ensign second grade? He should have gotten that.
LT J.G. and yes he absolutely should have been.
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Old November 27 2013, 03:32 PM   #268
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LT J.G. Kim would have worked.
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Old November 27 2013, 04:00 PM   #269
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Well, aside from Tuvok no one else in the crew ever got promoted.

How come no one complains over that too?
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Old November 27 2013, 04:25 PM   #270
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Fine, Torres should have been promoted too. I guess they could have made LCDR Chakotay a full CDR.
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