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Doctor Who "Bigger on the inside..."

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Old November 22 2013, 08:57 AM   #16
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Re: An Adventure in Space and Time - Grade and Discuss

It could fade between all of them in a few seconds. or even just have the audio, or have him glance over at "Troughton" before cutting over to Smith, Like I said, there were options and what they picked just didn't work for me. Oh well, I'll live. It was one bad choice in an hour and a half of good ones.
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Old November 22 2013, 09:08 AM   #17
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I wasn't alive in 1963 but my parents were and they passed Doctor Who onto me as a boy. I grew up with the show on reruns all the way from Hartnell to McCoy. I loved the idea of a character that will always be there for us no matter who plays him. The final scene made me cry my eyes out.
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Old November 22 2013, 09:14 AM   #18
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IMDB says that Moffet was supposed to play Tom Baker.

There was a plan, possibly on the cutting room floor, or this was misdirection.
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Old November 22 2013, 09:47 AM   #19
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I nearly lost it when Hartnell said "I don't want to go". Pretty sure Gatiss intentionally mirrored Tennant's line from The End of Time there.
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Old November 22 2013, 09:50 AM   #20
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Deckerd wrote: View Post
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They had a lot of options for that scene. A transition through each Doctor on his own TARDIS as Hartnell looks on before finally finishing on Smith where they share that moment and it comes back to him on his own set would have been a lot more effective.
That sounds dreadful. Why complicate an elegant and touching nod to the 50-year span of the show?
Exactly. Most of the time less is more.

I thought the Kennedy/Dalek scene was chilling as well, and the "I don't want to go" could have seemed trite, but I thought Bradley played it spot on.

So William Russell was the doorman? I didn't spot Carole Ann Ford, but nice to see Jean Marsh in there.
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Old November 22 2013, 10:22 AM   #21
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So William Russell was the doorman? I didn't spot Carole Ann Ford, but nice to see Jean Marsh in there.
CAF was the mother calling her children in for tea and reminding them "That show you like is on!" during the primiere of The Daleks. I picked out her voice right away but completely missed William Russell the first time through.
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Old November 22 2013, 10:25 AM   #22
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^Aha! Thanks!

It was only after the episode when they had a little interview with William Russell in his doorman outfit that I realised!

I thought the girl playing Carole/Susan was spooky.
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Old November 22 2013, 10:26 AM   #23
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That was good. They could've used voiceover from Hartnell in the last scene ("Ah, so you're my replacements" and cut at that point) to make it clear what they were trying to achieve - as it was, it was a little messy. Also, I never realised that Hartnell had been half-pushed out... I knew he'd gone due to failing health, but I'd assumed it was his decision (or GP's orders).
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Old November 22 2013, 10:56 AM   #24
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I'm hoping we'll get some nice interviews/reactions from production people/original actors today.
I'd love to know if any of the other actors who played the Doctor had their own "I don't want to go." moments.
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Old November 22 2013, 11:12 AM   #25
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^Aha! Thanks!

It was only after the episode when they had a little interview with William Russell in his doorman outfit that I realised!

I thought the girl playing Carole/Susan was spooky.
I thought she was plump.
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Old November 22 2013, 11:28 AM   #26
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Very, very good, the only thing I didn't like was Matt Smith popping up at end.

I found it very jarring, apart from that though it really was excellent.
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Old November 22 2013, 12:10 PM   #27
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I voted excellent. I'm not really a fan of biopics or docudramas but this film just nailed it perfectly. David Bradley was really wonderful in the role and, unlike many period pieces, it seemed convincing on the detail of the era.

I caught William Russell because a friend had told me that he was playing a security man. Didn't catch the other cameos, Matt, aside. 'I don't want to go' was a lovely touch and the scene where the kid mobbed Hartnell by the pond was great; slightly clichéd but worked perfectly.

I wasn't totally sold on Shearsmith as Troughton (he just seemed to be playing another LOG character to me) but that was my only quibble. It was notable just how well cast everyone else was, when you saw the real people opposite their actors in the end credits.

The retrospective on Hartnell that followed was a nice little treat too and I liked seeing his grown-up grand-daughter, having seen her character as a child in the film.
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Shearsmith did seem a bit fresh-faced and boyish (in spite of being in his mid 40s) to be playing Troughton but I thought it worked anyways. If he were in it for more than a blink of that last scene it might have been a bit more questionable.
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Old November 22 2013, 12:26 PM   #29
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Yes I wasn't totally sold on Shearsmith either, but given it was a very small cameo there probably wasn't time for a more nuanced portrayal.
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Old November 22 2013, 12:57 PM   #30
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I didn't know that there were so many cameos in An Adventure in Space and Time

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