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Old November 12 2013, 05:17 AM   #106
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Old November 12 2013, 06:07 AM   #107
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It's funny that at the end of STD he is just the very same character as in the beginning of ST09.
Only in the same way that Picard is the same after "The Inner Light" because he still says "Captain's Log..." every now and then.
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Old November 12 2013, 06:29 AM   #108
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And little kids calling him names.
As they did in "Yesteryear" (TAS).
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Old November 13 2013, 03:16 AM   #109
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They have the previews of #2 up now.

It's definitely getting into the conspiracy theory realm now. Very good.
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Old November 13 2013, 07:16 PM   #110
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If VOY "Future's End" & "11:59", and ENT "Carpenter Street" are anything to go by, North America was NOT dominated by Augments in the 1990's.
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Old November 13 2013, 07:28 PM   #111
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If VOY "Future's End" & "11:59", and ENT "Carpenter Street" are anything to go by, North America was NOT dominated by Augments in the 1990's.
Doesn't Carpenter Street take place a few years after the wars would've ended?
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Old November 13 2013, 07:32 PM   #112
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If VOY "Future's End" & "11:59", and ENT "Carpenter Street" are anything to go by, North America was NOT dominated by Augments in the 1990's.
Doesn't Carpenter Street take place a few years after the wars would've ended?
True, but "Future's End" is in 1996, the same year the conflicts ended, and the USA looks the same as it did in reality. I find it hard to believe that if the nation had been under Augment control for at least three years, things would be normal by then.
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Old November 13 2013, 07:44 PM   #113
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If VOY "Future's End" & "11:59", and ENT "Carpenter Street" are anything to go by, North America was NOT dominated by Augments in the 1990's.
Doesn't Carpenter Street take place a few years after the wars would've ended?
True, but "Future's End" is in 1996, the same year the conflicts ended, and the USA looks the same as it did in reality. I find it hard to believe that if the nation had been under Augment control for at least three years, things would be normal by then.
I don't think that there's any actual evidence that they controlled the United States. But we do get a nod to the conflict with the DY-100 model on Rain Robinson's desk in Future's End.
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Old November 13 2013, 07:51 PM   #114
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I don't think that there's any actual evidence that they controlled the United States.
The comic shows one Augment poised to assume control of North America at Khan's command.
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Old November 13 2013, 11:15 PM   #115
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Remember who's telling the story. Does it seem impossible that Khan/Harrison might be lying, just even a teensy, weensy, bit?
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Old November 14 2013, 04:38 AM   #116
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True, but "Future's End" is in 1996, the same year the conflicts ended, and the USA looks the same as it did in reality. I find it hard to believe that if the nation had been under Augment control for at least three years, things would be normal by then.
Space Seed specifically established that Khan was the "last of the tyrants to be overthrown". He might have been able to stay in power until 1996, but it's possible that whichever Augment was in power in the USA was overthrown well before Voyager visited Earth in 1996.
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Old November 14 2013, 04:43 AM   #117
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Surprised to see Newfoundland as an Augment facility site.
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Old November 14 2013, 05:01 AM   #118
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It's worth pointing out that the 1996 seen in "Future's End" was probably an alternate timeline anyway, since once Voyager restored the timeline, Braxton had never gone back in time at all and thus the 20th-century timeline resulting from Starling getting his timeship was undone, presumably replaced with the original version of history.
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Old November 14 2013, 05:12 AM   #119
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^ Then again, if Braxton never went back, then Voyager never did either, and thus Braxton DID go back...and that way lies madness.

Besides, didn't Janeway think that the Federation's entire technological base owes its existence to Henry Starling's reverse engineering of Braxton's ship?

Side note: There is a model of the Botany Bay (with its booster rockets) on Rain Robinson's desk in this episode. So the 'alternate timeline' suggestion would not seem to be the case. There never was any proof, or even a suggestion, that the USA was ever involved in the Eugenics Wars in the first place, after all...
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Old November 14 2013, 05:29 AM   #120
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No?

A war on that scale, it seems unlikely that the USA could avoid involvement.
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