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Old November 8 2013, 08:18 PM   #76
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Re: What order should the TV series and movies be watched in?

I was trying not to do that.

The link was enough and it's color coordinated.
http://thestartrekchronologyproject....ek_19.html?m=1
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Old November 8 2013, 08:34 PM   #77
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Re: What order should the TV series and movies be watched in?

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Why is half of TOS missing, including The Cage?
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Old November 8 2013, 08:50 PM   #78
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Re: What order should the TV series and movies be watched in?

It looks like all of TOS except "The Cage" is there, but rearranged so that some episodes are falling into different seasons. I'm guessing that they're in stardate order.
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Old November 8 2013, 10:43 PM   #79
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Re: What order should the TV series and movies be watched in?

@Bill J: The Old Mixer is right. I arranged the TOS episodes by Stardate, but The Cage isn't the only episode missing; The Man Trap is as well.

BTW, the reason The Cage isn't on the list is because its salient points are covered by The Menagerie, and the reason The Nan Trap isn't on the list is because it's Stardates overlap with those of The Corbomite Maneuver and I was trying to avoid continuity errors.
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Old November 8 2013, 11:04 PM   #80
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Which is a good argument why the TOS episodes were never meant to be watched in stardate order. You're throwing the salt vampire out with the bathwater.
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Old November 8 2013, 11:15 PM   #81
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Honestly TOS you could randomize in any order and watch without missing much if anything.
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Old November 8 2013, 11:17 PM   #82
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Honestly TOS you could randomize in any order and watch without missing much if anything.
The two pilots and the early first season are really the only ones that need to be viewed in production order.
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Old November 11 2013, 03:36 AM   #83
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Re: What order should the TV series and movies be watched in?

I prefer to watch it order they were originally released. So I alternate eps of TNG and DS9 when they were concurrent, and watch the movies in between the DS9 eps they were released. Enterprise after all the classic series and movies. I know it's a prequel, but there are sequel elements in there, and I just like it better in that order. JJ movies last.
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Old November 11 2013, 06:39 PM   #84
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Re: What order should the TV series and movies be watched in?

The 'Ultimate Guides' I posted earlier didn't include any of the movies, but, if you want to watch them in conjunction with what I posted above, they ought to be watched in the following fashion:
Star Trek the Motion Picture, The Wrath of Kahn, The Search for Spock, The Voyage Home, The Final Frontier, and The Undiscovered Country following All Our Yesterdays
Star Trek Generations following DS9 Season 3's Meridian
Star Trek Insurrection following DS9 Season 7's Covenant
Star Trek Nemesis following DS9 Season 7's What You Leave Behind

Also, here's my 'Ultimate Guide' for ENT::
Season 1:
Broken Bow (Season/Series Premiere)
Fight or Flight
Strange New World
Unexpected
Terra Nova
The Andorian Incident
Breaking the Ice
Civilization
Fortunate Son
Silent Enemy
Cold Front
Dear Doctor
Sleeping Dogs
Shadows of P'Jem
Shuttlepod One
Fusion
Rogue Planet
Acquisition
Oasis
Detained
Vox Sola
Fallen Hero
Desert Crossing
Two Days and Two Nights
Shockwave, Part 1 (Season Finale)
Season 2:
Shockwave, Part 2 (Season Premiere)
Carbon Creek
A Night in Sickbay
Minefield
Dead Stop
Marauders
The Seventh
The Communicator
Singularity
Vanishing Point
Precious Cargo
The Catwalk
Dawn
Stigma
Cease Fire
Future Tense
Canamar
The Crossing
Judgment
Horizon
The Breach
Cogenitor
Regeneration
First Flight
Bounty
The Expanse (Season Finale)


Season 3:
The Xindi (Season Premiere)
Anomaly
Extinction
Rajin
Impulse
Exile
The Shipment
Twilight
North Star
Similitude
Carpenter Street
Chosen Realm
Proving Ground
Stratagem
Harbinger
Doctor's Orders
Hatchery
Azati Prime
Damage
The Forgotten
E2
The Council
Countdown
Zero Hour (Season Finale)


Season 4:
Storm Front, Part 1 (Season Premiere)
Storm Front, Part 2
Home
Borderland
Cold Station 12
The Augments
The Forge
Awakening
Kir'Shara
Daedalus
Observer Effect
Babel One
United
The Aenar
Affliction
Divergence
Bound
In a Mirror Darkly, Part 1
In a Mirror Darkly, Part 2
Demons
Terra Prime
These are the Voyages (Season/Series Finale)
ENT is the series that needed the least amount of adjustment, as I ended up only making 3 changes to how things were originally produced and aired. Silent Enemy and Cold Front were flip-flopped (because Cold Front takes place after SE), and I moved A Night in Sickbay (which was produced between Minefield and Dead Stop and aired immediately after Dead Stop) to before either of those episodes because it made the 'flow' work better.
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Old November 12 2013, 12:16 AM   #85
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Hey, on that site http://thestartrekchronologyproject....ek_19.html?m=1 what does the numbers inside of the parentesis mean and what do they represent?

For example:

79 ENT Borderland (1)
80 ENT Cold Station 12 (2)
81 ENT The Augments (3)
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Old November 12 2013, 12:25 AM   #86
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Old November 12 2013, 12:55 AM   #87
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Old November 12 2013, 01:03 AM   #88
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Old November 15 2013, 04:59 AM   #89
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I've run across a quandary that I want people's opinions on. In the episode order that I posted earlier for Voyager, I put Day of Honor and Nemesis in Production Order, but after having watched both, I find myself wondering if I ought not to have once again tried to 'second-guess' the Voyager PTBs and left the two eps in their original Airing Order because putting them in Production Order means that you go from Seven 'officially' joining the crew in The Gift to Nemesis - where she doesn't appear - to Day of Honor, where we see her trying to reach out and participate in ship functions by asking for a duty assignment.

There's nothing inherently wrong with that and I think things flow well either way, but was wondering what others thought, so "Should Day of Honor and Nemesis be watched in the order they were aired, or in the order in which they were produced?"
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Old November 17 2013, 05:06 AM   #90
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I've run across a quandary that I want people's opinions on. In the episode order that I posted earlier for Voyager, I put Day of Honor and Nemesis in Production Order, but after having watched both, I find myself wondering if I ought not to have once again tried to 'second-guess' the Voyager PTBs and left the two eps in their original Airing Order because putting them in Production Order means that you go from Seven 'officially' joining the crew in The Gift to Nemesis - where she doesn't appear - to Day of Honor, where we see her trying to reach out and participate in ship functions by asking for a duty assignment.

There's nothing inherently wrong with that and I think things flow well either way, but was wondering what others thought, so "Should Day of Honor and Nemesis be watched in the order they were aired, or in the order in which they were produced?"
With the exception of TNG's first two seasons, the producers intentionally released episodes in airdate orders so I think that's the preferred way to go. Otherwise you end up with crazy stuff like part 2 of a couple 2 parters coming first.

For TOS, they were just desperate to finish the post production of any episode they could so very little thought went into the order they were aired.
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