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Old November 8 2013, 04:02 AM   #16
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Re: Indistinguishable from Magic/Plagues of Night problems?

^If I recall correctly, the whole reason for the Q existing is completely different.
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Old November 8 2013, 07:24 AM   #17
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Re: Indistinguishable from Magic/Plagues of Night problems?

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Her last appearance as a nurse aboard Titan was far too short a time before IFM to allow her to earn an MD in the interim.
Hyper-learning. Uhura was basically blanked out by Nomad. She resumed her career quickly enough.
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Old November 11 2013, 11:07 PM   #18
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Re: Indistinguishable from Magic/Plagues of Night problems?

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Hyper-learning. Uhura was basically blanked out by Nomad. She resumed her career quickly enough.
I thought we agreed never to speak of that again?
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Old November 11 2013, 11:19 PM   #19
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Re: Indistinguishable from Magic/Plagues of Night problems?

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The issue with Ogawa is as much about what happened before IFM as what happened afterward. Her last appearance as a nurse aboard Titan was far too short a time before IFM to allow her to earn an MD in the interim.
Is there any in universe reason that she couldn't have been training as an MD whilst still nursing ?
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Old November 11 2013, 11:42 PM   #20
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Is there any in universe reason that she couldn't have been training as an MD whilst still nursing ?
Err, because she was busy serving on a starship way out on the frontier at the time? I'm not sure earning an MD is something you could do as a correspondence course.

Besides, as I just pointed out in another thread, Ogawa's most recent appearance to date as a nurse on Titan (Fallen Gods) is set just two months before her appearance as a doctor on Challenger in IFM, in which it's stated that she joined Challenger's crew "some time ago." Given the lengthy travel time from Titan's survey area back to civilization, that's quite difficult to reconcile.
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Old November 12 2013, 01:56 AM   #21
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Re: Indistinguishable from Magic/Plagues of Night problems?

I am happy to read stories even if another book did something else with the ships or characters. What is more important to me is that there is a good story and interesting characters.
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Old November 12 2013, 02:24 AM   #22
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Is there any in universe reason that she couldn't have been training as an MD whilst still nursing ?
Err, because she was busy serving on a starship way out on the frontier at the time? I'm not sure earning an MD is something you could do as a correspondence course.
It's not like you don't have resources on a Starship. You've got a full medical staff, a modern sickbay, a computer with the knowledge of the Federation, a holodeck that can recreate any necessary training scenario including lectures from the galaxy's most renown doctors and an EMH, the earliest version of which was programmed with the knowledge of 47 individual medical officers.

Somehow, I don't think it's like becoming a doctor by mail.
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Old November 12 2013, 07:48 PM   #23
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Besides, as I just pointed out in another thread, Ogawa's most recent appearance to date as a nurse on Titan (Fallen Gods) is set just two months before her appearance as a doctor on Challenger in IFM, in which it's stated that she joined Challenger's crew "some time ago." Given the lengthy travel time from Titan's survey area back to civilization, that's quite difficult to reconcile.
Eh, she was picked up by a Vesta-class ship for [reasons], and "some time ago" = "hundreds of hours"
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Old November 14 2013, 07:12 PM   #24
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Re: Indistinguishable from Magic/Plagues of Night problems?

While doing her MD 'by the way' can be considered unlikely in general, she could have been in training for decades. One of the parallel timelines in TNG "Parallels" showed her as CMO.

Also, Nurse Chapel became a doctor and was undergoing her training during the late 5YM according to the novels (not sure, either That Which Divides, Allegiance in Exile or Shocks of Adversity).
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Old November 14 2013, 07:26 PM   #25
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^Well, Chapel gave up a career in bioresearch and became a Starfleet nurse so that she could search for Roger Korby. I suppose it's possible Ogawa could've similarly put MD training on hold to become a nurse, but that would be kind of odd to happen twice.

The thing is, there's a tendency in our society to see nurses as just subordinate doctors, as if doctor is the next step up from nurse, but that's a myth. Doctors and nurses are parallel and complementary professions with different demands. It's not unheard of for nurses to become doctors, but it's not an automatic step, and it's a lateral career move, not a promotion.
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Old November 14 2013, 08:41 PM   #26
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^ Too true, my godfather is a nurse, and in the UK there is little crossover. Complimentary professions is an excellent way of putting it, Chris
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Old November 14 2013, 09:55 PM   #27
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^ Bear in mind I was aware of that issue, but was given a brief. I'd actually suggested Pulaski for the Challenger's CMO, as I figured she'd be Scotty's kind of doctor...
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Old November 14 2013, 10:22 PM   #28
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^ Bear in mind I was aware of that issue, but was given a brief. I'd actually suggested Pulaski for the Challenger's CMO, as I figured she'd be Scotty's kind of doctor...
Pulaski would have been a great choice. I always disliked her - it would have 'engaged' me in a more antagonistic way...
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Old November 15 2013, 04:27 AM   #29
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Re: Indistinguishable from Magic/Plagues of Night problems?

When I was reading TET, I was trying to reconcile it with what I remembered of Janeway's entry in Gateways: What Lay Beyond.
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Old November 15 2013, 08:02 PM   #30
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How does TET contradict the Janeway portions of G: WLB?

And how does TET fit with Q&A?
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