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Old November 10 2013, 11:40 PM   #76
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I didn't find any plot holes egregious enough to warrant nitpicking. The only real plot hole I noticed is that Malekith seemed to sense where the Aether was an act accordingly, but got fooled into thinking fake Jane Foster was a real Jane Foster. But that was a cool scene, so I can't possibly complain.
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Old November 10 2013, 11:41 PM   #77
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I don't think on-screen the Tesseract has ever been called the Cosmic Cube, but most on-line sources call it that. Even though I don't even think the Tesseract in the movies does the same things the Cosmic Cube does. It's just your normal, ever-day, four-spatial dimensioned hunk of glowy blue.

What makes up the Infinity Gems/Stones in the comics is obviously going to be very different in the MCU.


Loki didn't take Mjolnir because he wouldn't have been able to pick it up. Remember, you have to be worthy of the hammer to pick it up. Odin, the All-Father could do it and Thor but Loki couldn't. Taking the hammer would have exposed him.
Yes, I know. It was a joke.

On the actual post-credits scene I do find it odd how close Jane was able to stand by the Bifrost effects without ill effect. And in that scene I was partly expecting someone else other than Thor to be there. Like maybe Sif there, slapping Jane and saying "Back off! He's mine" and then we get a bout of cat-fighting between Sif and Jane.

I didn't find any plot holes egregious enough to warrant nitpicking. The only real plot hole I noticed is that Malekith seemed to sense where the Aether was an act accordingly, but got fooled into thinking fake Jane Foster was a real Jane Foster. But that was a cool scene, so I can't possibly complain.
To be fair, we don't know how these illusions work. It's possible that it's multi-sensory (not just visual, lacking only tactile) and that the sense of the Aether was coming from vision Jane just as much as it was real Jane.

Along those lines, usually when we've seen Loki do HIS illusions and tricks they're non-tactile as well. This sort of makes me wonder how he faked the illusion of his death since he was in Thor's arms at the time. (I guess he could have been lying there and made the illusion from himself but it still seems somethings here another case of the magic needing to do what the plot needs it to do.)
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Old November 10 2013, 11:52 PM   #78
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I had a really weird thought that Odin and Loki switched places much earlier, just before the jail break, because "the plan" any plan would only be believable if Loki was on board but Loki couldn't be absolutely trusted and Odin wanted to spend sometime with his boy before the Universe was destroyed....

Somewhere in this comic Thor says somehting like "The Sons of Odin together again!"


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Old November 10 2013, 11:55 PM   #79
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I'm just disappointed this movie didn't feature Thor turning into a frog trapped in Central Park.
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Old November 11 2013, 12:26 AM   #80
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^That's the next movie.
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Old November 11 2013, 12:28 AM   #81
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^That's the next movie.
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Old November 11 2013, 12:33 AM   #82
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Alidar Jarok wrote: View Post
I didn't find any plot holes egregious enough to warrant nitpicking. The only real plot hole I noticed is that Malekith seemed to sense where the Aether was an act accordingly, but got fooled into thinking fake Jane Foster was a real Jane Foster. But that was a cool scene, so I can't possibly complain.
But a moment later, we saw that Jane was hidden only about 20 feet away. I would assume that Malekith could sense the Aether but not with complete precision as to location.
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Old November 11 2013, 12:57 AM   #83
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Yeah, that's true. And, like I said, it was probably the biggest thing I could think of. Whatever plotholes there were, the movie was entertaining enough that I didn't notice them.
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Old November 11 2013, 01:15 AM   #84
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I found it harder to believe that they were able to heal Fandral's stab wound in the first Thor film, but couldn't save
in the second.


During the post-credit scene, a friend of mine asked "Is Odin trapped inside this".
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Old November 11 2013, 01:42 AM   #85
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I'd argue spoiler codes for Thor: DW are not needed as the OP and nature of the thread warns of them.

I'd have to see how Fandral was injured and then Frigga to make a decision, but I'd guess that Fandral's was in a less critical space (we'll assume Asgardian anatomy is different than human anatomy.) Also they were able to, fairly, quickly get Fandral to the healing room to mend where as in the aftermath of Frigga's injury they were still dealing with the effects of the attack, it's possible the healing room was damaged when Frigga was injured. Hell, is Fandral even Asgardian? Maybe he's from a different Realm that makes him more resilient to damage beyond him being a (young) man who's often in battle as opposed to an (old) woman who sits on a throne.

Then there's the "it's more dramatic" hand-wave.

Along other lines, I'm sue everyone noted Odin's raven in some of the opening moments of the film, something we also see during the Loki/Thor encounter in Avengers.
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Old November 11 2013, 01:45 AM   #86
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It's also possible the blade had different properties, since we're dealing with a quasi-fantasy so magic blades are also in vogue.
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Old November 11 2013, 01:51 AM   #87
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It's also possible the blade had different properties, since we're dealing with a quasi-fantasy so magic blades are also in vogue.
This is true too.
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Old November 11 2013, 02:16 AM   #88
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Perhaps Malekith the Cursed had... a cursed blade!
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Old November 11 2013, 02:36 AM   #89
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It was entertaining, though I can't say I liked it as much as the first one. Loki was put to good use with more than one deceptive twist.

Didn't much care for having dark elves in spaceships being shot at by Asgardian ray-guns. I know that it's supposed to be science so advanced that it looks like magic...but it didn't look like magic this time, it looked like Star Wars.

For those expressing confusion, the nine realms are different dimensions, with Midgard being Earth's entire dimension...and Earth conveniently being the focal point of Midgard from the Asgardians' perspective.

The GotG teaser was odd but harmless. Didn't catch that giving the Infinity Gem/whatever to the Collector was Loki's call. Also didn't catch that the Inifinity Gem in question was the Aether, until I read it here.

Also, I missed a few minutes between when Thor and friends were starting to place Selvig's devices in London and the dimension-hopping fight between Thor and Malekith (my bladder not being what it used to be in 1978 when I maintained control through most of Superman). Was there anything noteworthy in there?
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Old November 11 2013, 02:46 AM   #90
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I don't think we can guarantee that giving it to the Collector was Loki's call. It may have been Thor's call. The Collector certainly isn't one inclined to give up his collection if he doesn't have to. I think they know the risks giving it to him, but they probably think it'll at least be secure.
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