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Old November 2 2013, 02:19 PM   #241
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Re: Star Trek: Axanar

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Old November 6 2013, 07:34 PM   #242
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Old November 6 2013, 07:47 PM   #243
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Those twin shuttlebays are just begging to be used (maybe a supply run to some smaller outpost or a planetary survey).
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Old November 6 2013, 10:11 PM   #244
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I love this ship design, very reminescent of the USS Reliant from WOK, always a personal favorite...I like the way this film is shaping up...you'll get bonus points from me if you add a Tellarite or Andorian anywhere in the background...
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Old November 9 2013, 04:29 PM   #245
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I love this ship design, very reminescent of the USS Reliant from WOK, always a personal favorite...I like the way this film is shaping up...you'll get bonus points from me if you add a Tellarite or Andorian anywhere in the background...

You know, issues like this get a LOT of attention. We tackle every single important detail of TOS.

So, the question is should there be aliens aboard the USS Ares? More over, are there aliens in Starfleet in the Prime Universe?

Well, let's see....

1. There are no aliens whatsoever on the USS Enterprise in TOS. In fact there are none in Starfleet.

2. Spock is the first Vulcan in Starfleet.

3. The Vulcans fully crew the USS Intrepid (destroyed in the Immunity Syndrome). Thus, this must be under Vulcan control, not Starfleet.

4. Kirk refers to UESPA, the United Earth SPace Probe Agency, which we see in "Enterprise" as well and is referred to in both as "Starfleet Command".

So it seems we don't have integrated crews 100 years after the founding of the Federation. (Granted we do in JJverse, but I am sure JJ didn't even THINK about this question).

So from the above 4 facts, it appears that maybe each member of the Federation has its own fleet. And maybe they coordinate, but don't integrate.

So, in Axanar you WILL see Vulcans in the Federation, and you WILL see an Andorian captain. :-)

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Old November 9 2013, 06:57 PM   #246
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Bixby wrote: View Post
I love this ship design, very reminescent of the USS Reliant from WOK, always a personal favorite...I like the way this film is shaping up...you'll get bonus points from me if you add a Tellarite or Andorian anywhere in the background...

You know, issues like this get a LOT of attention. We tackle every single important detail of TOS.

So, the question is should there be aliens aboard the USS Ares? More over, are there aliens in Starfleet in the Prime Universe?

Well, let's see....

1. There are no aliens whatsoever on the USS Enterprise in TOS. In fact there are none in Starfleet.

2. Spock is the first Vulcan in Starfleet.

3. The Vulcans fully crew the USS Intrepid (destroyed in the Immunity Syndrome). Thus, this must be under Vulcan control, not Starfleet.

4. Kirk refers to UESPA, the United Earth SPace Probe Agency, which we see in "Enterprise" as well and is referred to in both as "Starfleet Command".

So it seems we don't have integrated crews 100 years after the founding of the Federation. (Granted we do in JJverse, but I am sure JJ didn't even THINK about this question).

So from the above 4 facts, it appears that maybe each member of the Federation has its own fleet. And maybe they coordinate, but don't integrate.

So, in Axanar you WILL see Vulcans in the Federation, and you WILL see an Andorian captain. :-)

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Thanks for doing this, I've always been fond of the Andorians as a race.

As for the JJverse integration, I've always thought that rather than being an alternate universe that split off when the Romulans came through, it was an existing alternate universe. They just think it's a split, but it's really just another universe that's closer to the Prime Universe than the Mirror Universe.

Personally, I'm looking forward to Axanar, it's looking good and fits my understanding of the Trek universe.
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Old November 9 2013, 09:50 PM   #247
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I agree that the jjverse was a separate universe before Nero and Spock altered it further. I am uncertain how integrated each Starfleet ship was at the time of TOS. No reason a few non humans could be on the Ares.
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Old November 10 2013, 10:21 PM   #248
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It´s very cool to see how much thought you put into each aspect. Looking forward to seeing that Andorian captain!
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Old November 10 2013, 10:27 PM   #249
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I'm quite curious as to the scale of these starships compared to the TOS Enterprise, given that they follow a modified form of the design lineage of the (IMO) oversized Abrams films. They look beautiful, but I am curious about the scale question.
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Old November 11 2013, 03:01 AM   #250
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It´s very cool to see how much thought you put into each aspect. Looking forward to seeing that Andorian captain!
Thank you very much. I appreciate your support!


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I'm quite curious as to the scale of these starships compared to the TOS Enterprise, given that they follow a modified form of the design lineage of the (IMO) oversized Abrams films. They look beautiful, but I am curious about the scale question.
The Nacelles are pretty close to the TOS Enterprise, so the ships all are roughly to scale of that. This is a Prime universe story

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Old November 11 2013, 06:27 AM   #251
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I'm quite curious as to the scale of these starships compared to the TOS Enterprise, given that they follow a modified form of the design lineage of the (IMO) oversized Abrams films. They look beautiful, but I am curious about the scale question.
The Nacelles are pretty close to the TOS Enterprise, so the ships all are roughly to scale of that. This is a Prime universe story

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Good to hear, I must admit. They are beautiful redesigns.

Another question if I may: I believe it was mentioned somewhere that we'll see the Enterprise (or at least a Constitution class ship) being built. I'm curious as to whether the ship (what we see of it) will be Cage configuration, main TOS configuration or an earlier version specially designed (after all, it might have been refitted for Pike after the first run with April)?
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Old November 12 2013, 09:00 PM   #252
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Damn but that Hermes model is gorgeous. Tobias does it again!
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Old November 13 2013, 07:45 AM   #253
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Another question if I may: I believe it was mentioned somewhere that we'll see the Enterprise (or at least a Constitution class ship) being built. I'm curious as to whether the ship (what we see of it) will be Cage configuration, main TOS configuration or an earlier version specially designed (after all, it might have been refitted for Pike after the first run with April)?
You know, Tobias and I havent even talked about this yet! But a good question.

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Old November 13 2013, 12:51 PM   #254
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Thanks for pointing this out - hadn´t thought about that much - but I think the Cage configuration would make most sense.
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Old November 13 2013, 04:38 PM   #255
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Bixby wrote: View Post
I love this ship design, very reminescent of the USS Reliant from WOK, always a personal favorite...I like the way this film is shaping up...you'll get bonus points from me if you add a Tellarite or Andorian anywhere in the background...

You know, issues like this get a LOT of attention. We tackle every single important detail of TOS.

So, the question is should there be aliens aboard the USS Ares? More over, are there aliens in Starfleet in the Prime Universe?

Well, let's see....

1. There are no aliens whatsoever on the USS Enterprise in TOS. In fact there are none in Starfleet.

2. Spock is the first Vulcan in Starfleet.

3. The Vulcans fully crew the USS Intrepid (destroyed in the Immunity Syndrome). Thus, this must be under Vulcan control, not Starfleet.

4. Kirk refers to UESPA, the United Earth SPace Probe Agency, which we see in "Enterprise" as well and is referred to in both as "Starfleet Command".

So it seems we don't have integrated crews 100 years after the founding of the Federation. (Granted we do in JJverse, but I am sure JJ didn't even THINK about this question).

So from the above 4 facts, it appears that maybe each member of the Federation has its own fleet. And maybe they coordinate, but don't integrate.

So, in Axanar you WILL see Vulcans in the Federation, and you WILL see an Andorian captain. :-)

Alec

not to derail the conversation, but I dont think ive seen any canon source saying that Spock was the first Vulcan in Starfleet. Not even that he was the first to graduate the academy. this was something that fans imagined up outside of the show.

while it is outside of TOS, TAS had several aliens on the bridge. and TMP showed many aliens in the rec room scene. the lack of aliens in TOS was due to low budget. This is why most aliens looked like transplanted humans. so its entirely possible that some of the background people were aliens but of no budget human looking design.
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